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== Meeting Time And Location ==
 
== Meeting Time And Location ==
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01:30 pm  EST (JLab time) <br>
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09:00 EST (JLab time) Weekly Meeting <br>
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10:00 EST (JLab time) Electronics Discussion
  
 
REMOTE during Covid-19
 
REMOTE during Covid-19
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
  
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== Tentative Agenda ==
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== Agenda (Weekly CPP Meeting) 09:00 am ==
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# Previous CPP meeting: [[&pi; polarizability Meeting Jan 28, 2021|Jan 28, 2021]]
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# CPP Beamline meeting: [[&pi; polarizability Meeting Jan 28, 2021|Jan 28, 2021]]
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# Previous CPP meeting: [[&pi; polarizability Meeting Jan 27, 2021|Jan 27, 2021]]
 
# Announcements
 
# Announcements
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# Action Items
 
# [[CPP and NPP Readiness Review]]
 
# [[CPP and NPP Readiness Review]]
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# Data Analysis
 +
# PID + AI
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# Other business
 +
# Next meeting
 +
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== Minutes ==
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'' Attending: Mark, Rory, Elton, Ilya, Andrew, David, Simon
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# CPP Beamline meeting: [[&pi; polarizability Meeting Jan 28, 2021|Jan 28, 2021]]
 +
# Previous CPP meeting: [[&pi; polarizability Meeting Jan 27, 2021|Jan 27, 2021]]
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# Announcements
 +
# Action Items
 +
# [[CPP and NPP Readiness Review]]
 +
#* Rory went over the outline of his talk, which is based on the Jeopardy Review.
 +
#* Elton went over the [https://halldweb.jlab.org/doc-private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=4898 draft slides] and there was feedback.
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#* We will review the slides again tomorrow afternoon with Tim.
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# Data Analysis
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#* Andrew: Presented latest analysis, which shows that the azimuthal asymmetry distribution is not symmetric.
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#* Elton: This may have been seen previously and could be due to the the beam position being offset. Andrew will check with Alex A.
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# Next meeting
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#* Next Wed, Feb 10 is the ERR and the following is the collaboration meeting.
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== Agenda (Electronics Discussion) 10:00 am ==
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* Discussion on Electronics for CPP
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 +
# Announcements
 +
# [[CPP and NPP Readiness Review]]
 +
# [https://halldweb.jlab.org/doc-private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=4898 Elton Draft Slides]
 
# Components
 
# Components
 
#* FADCs, moving the CDC crate electronics
 
#* FADCs, moving the CDC crate electronics
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== Minutes ==
 
== Minutes ==
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'' Attending:
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'' Attending: Rory, Elton, Ilya, Andrew, Simon, Hovanes, Fernando, Nick, Chris (did I miss anyone?)
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# Announcements
 +
# [[CPP and NPP Readiness Review]]
 +
# [https://halldweb.jlab.org/doc-private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=4898 Elton Draft Slides]
 +
#* We went over a couple of slides on electronics (slides 4 and 5) in Elton's draft presentation to the ERR
 +
#* There was substantive discussion and feedback on several points. From my notes, please send corrections/comments:
 +
# FADC cables
 +
#* Original CDC,FDC cables from Amphenol are obsolete. Cable used for prototype in beam is also no longer available
 +
#* Chris has ordered a short section of a new cable that should work. He will check that the assembly with connector all fits.
 +
#* We need a length before the cable is ordered. Now that we have located the location of the rack, we will ask Stephanie to estimate the cable length.
 +
# LV supplies/cable
 +
#* Recall: Each chamber requires two +5 and two -5 supplies: Rory: Each supply draws 1 A, i.e. 2x2=4 A per chamber -> 20 W/chamber
 +
#* Fernando: Each MPOD channel delivers 5 A -> can channel supplies one chamber -> need six channels. [Question: In my notes I have that we need six +5V and six -5V = 12 channels?]
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#* We will need cables that connect the MPOD supply to the chamber, which has banana plug connections.
 +
#* Hovanes: For the slow control need to know whether one needs control of +/- voltages separately. It was decided that the +/-5 volts can be tied together.
 +
# HV supply/cable
 +
#* There is a CAEN HV crate on the upstream south rack and has sufficient space. There is a Drift Chamber card, but it takes the Radial connector (not SHV)
 +
#* There are two options: a) find a card with SHV connectors (I don't think Hall D has any), b) fabricate a Radial-Radial connector and a box with Radial input and SHV outputs (Hall B has made some of these)
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# Slow Controls:
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#* Hovanes: The slow controls can be implemented once the specifications are fixed
 +
#* Tripping on current is part of the HV supply and normal for chambers
 +
#* Ramp rate
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#* Define interlocks: temperature? CDC and FCD have temperature interlocks
 +
#* Rory: the electronics is enclosed in a shield, generating 20 W.
 +
#* Nick will purchase thermistors (or thermocouple), one for each chamber. They can be added to the PLC on the platform
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#* Gas system: Final design has not been completed, but a relatively simple setup is envisioned. Rory: Proposes six flow meters (one per chamber) set at 5 cc/s. Each chamber will have its own bubbler with a camera to check flow. Beni: He has bubblers in his office.
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#* The specification needs to fe finalized before controls are addressed.
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# Heating of electronics
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#* This was discussed in some length
 +
#* Fernando: Suggests adding an inlet and outlet to the electronics box, which could be used to flow gas through the electronics in case it is needed.
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# Next meeting
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#* We will reconvene to try to nail down the loose ends.

Latest revision as of 16:37, 3 February 2021

Meeting Time And Location

09:00 EST (JLab time) Weekly Meeting
10:00 EST (JLab time) Electronics Discussion

REMOTE during Covid-19

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Action Items

Agenda (Weekly CPP Meeting) 09:00 am

  1. CPP Beamline meeting: Jan 28, 2021
  2. Previous CPP meeting: Jan 27, 2021
  3. Announcements
  4. Action Items
  5. CPP and NPP Readiness Review
  6. Data Analysis
  7. PID + AI
  8. Other business
  9. Next meeting

Minutes

Attending: Mark, Rory, Elton, Ilya, Andrew, David, Simon

  1. CPP Beamline meeting: Jan 28, 2021
  2. Previous CPP meeting: Jan 27, 2021
  3. Announcements
  4. Action Items
  5. CPP and NPP Readiness Review
    • Rory went over the outline of his talk, which is based on the Jeopardy Review.
    • Elton went over the draft slides and there was feedback.
    • We will review the slides again tomorrow afternoon with Tim.
  6. Data Analysis
    • Andrew: Presented latest analysis, which shows that the azimuthal asymmetry distribution is not symmetric.
    • Elton: This may have been seen previously and could be due to the the beam position being offset. Andrew will check with Alex A.
  7. Next meeting
    • Next Wed, Feb 10 is the ERR and the following is the collaboration meeting.

Agenda (Electronics Discussion) 10:00 am

  • Discussion on Electronics for CPP
  1. Announcements
  2. CPP and NPP Readiness Review
  3. Elton Draft Slides
  4. Components
    • FADCs, moving the CDC crate electronics
    • Signal cables
    • HV connections to CAEN supply
    • HV cables
    • LV supplies, MPODs?
    • LV cables/connections
  5. Discussion (All)

Minutes

Attending: Rory, Elton, Ilya, Andrew, Simon, Hovanes, Fernando, Nick, Chris (did I miss anyone?)

  1. Announcements
  2. CPP and NPP Readiness Review
  3. Elton Draft Slides
    • We went over a couple of slides on electronics (slides 4 and 5) in Elton's draft presentation to the ERR
    • There was substantive discussion and feedback on several points. From my notes, please send corrections/comments:
  4. FADC cables
    • Original CDC,FDC cables from Amphenol are obsolete. Cable used for prototype in beam is also no longer available
    • Chris has ordered a short section of a new cable that should work. He will check that the assembly with connector all fits.
    • We need a length before the cable is ordered. Now that we have located the location of the rack, we will ask Stephanie to estimate the cable length.
  5. LV supplies/cable
    • Recall: Each chamber requires two +5 and two -5 supplies: Rory: Each supply draws 1 A, i.e. 2x2=4 A per chamber -> 20 W/chamber
    • Fernando: Each MPOD channel delivers 5 A -> can channel supplies one chamber -> need six channels. [Question: In my notes I have that we need six +5V and six -5V = 12 channels?]
    • We will need cables that connect the MPOD supply to the chamber, which has banana plug connections.
    • Hovanes: For the slow control need to know whether one needs control of +/- voltages separately. It was decided that the +/-5 volts can be tied together.
  6. HV supply/cable
    • There is a CAEN HV crate on the upstream south rack and has sufficient space. There is a Drift Chamber card, but it takes the Radial connector (not SHV)
    • There are two options: a) find a card with SHV connectors (I don't think Hall D has any), b) fabricate a Radial-Radial connector and a box with Radial input and SHV outputs (Hall B has made some of these)
  7. Slow Controls:
    • Hovanes: The slow controls can be implemented once the specifications are fixed
    • Tripping on current is part of the HV supply and normal for chambers
    • Ramp rate
    • Define interlocks: temperature? CDC and FCD have temperature interlocks
    • Rory: the electronics is enclosed in a shield, generating 20 W.
    • Nick will purchase thermistors (or thermocouple), one for each chamber. They can be added to the PLC on the platform
    • Gas system: Final design has not been completed, but a relatively simple setup is envisioned. Rory: Proposes six flow meters (one per chamber) set at 5 cc/s. Each chamber will have its own bubbler with a camera to check flow. Beni: He has bubblers in his office.
    • The specification needs to fe finalized before controls are addressed.
  8. Heating of electronics
    • This was discussed in some length
    • Fernando: Suggests adding an inlet and outlet to the electronics box, which could be used to flow gas through the electronics in case it is needed.
  9. Next meeting
    • We will reconvene to try to nail down the loose ends.
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