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=Minutes=
 
=Minutes=
  
Present: Beni, Simon, Mark, sasha, elton, eugene
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Present:
fsu: sasha O
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* '''FSU''': Sasha Ostrovidov
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* '''JLab''': Eugene Chudakov, Mark Ito (chair), Elton Smith, Sascha Somov, Simon Taylor, Beni Zihlmann
  
Sasha
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==TOF Prototype Studies==
  
did some time resolution measurements with new pmt
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Sasha reported on progress at FSU.
back to CAEN cfd to do time measurements
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old h: 2000v 124 ps
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new h: recommended voltage, 1750, 140 ps
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at 2000 v: 114 ps
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did different wrapping w/ tyvek 114
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===Time Resolution===
112 with ESR
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50-50 split: 116 ps, no effect
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He has done new time resolution tests with the new Hamamatsu PMT's. To do this back to use the CAEN constant-fraction discriminators. With the new tubes at two voltages:
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! Voltage (V) !! Resolution (ps) !! Comment
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| 1750 || 140 || recommended voltage
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| 2000 || 114 || maximum voltage
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Compare this to the previous best measurement with the old Hamamatsu tubes at 2000 V of 124 ps.
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These tests were done with Tyvek wrapping. When ESR was tried, at the higher voltage, the resolution was 112, not much improvement. Tests were also done with a 50-50 signal split. Resolution came out at 116 ps, very little effect.
  
 
beni: worry about running pmt's at maximum voltage
 
beni: worry about running pmt's at maximum voltage
 
request for lifetime estimate, lifetime usually quoted in terms of charge
 
request for lifetime estimate, lifetime usually quoted in terms of charge
  
 
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===Splitters===
 
fernando has sent 2 splits and 2 inverters to fsu
 
fernando has sent 2 splits and 2 inverters to fsu
  
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with leading edge discriminator: no timewalk correction 180 ps
 
with leading edge discriminator: no timewalk correction 180 ps
 
(t1 - t2)/2
 
(t1 - t2)/2
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===Plans===
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==FSU MOU==
  
 
Paul sent new language , Elton put it in, will send to Glenn and Allison, liability language
 
Paul sent new language , Elton put it in, will send to Glenn and Allison, liability language

Revision as of 15:40, 1 October 2010

Location, Time

Friday, October 1, 2010
2:00 pm EDT
JLab: CEBAF Center, Room F326/7
ESNet: 8542553
EVO: direct meeting link
Conference Group: 800-377-8846, participant code: 77438230
Slides: talks can be deposited in the directory /group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2010-10 on the JLab CUE (you have to be a member of the "halld" group). This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2010-10/ .

Agenda

  1. Announcements
  2. Minutes from the last meeting
  3. Time-of-Flight
    1. Prototype Status
    2. Calibration system
    3. Mechanical interface to support structure: real estate planning
    4. MOU status
  4. Start Counter Status
    1. MOU plans
  5. Target
    1. Refrigerator update
    2. MOU status
  6. Action Items

Minutes

Present:

  • FSU: Sasha Ostrovidov
  • JLab: Eugene Chudakov, Mark Ito (chair), Elton Smith, Sascha Somov, Simon Taylor, Beni Zihlmann

TOF Prototype Studies

Sasha reported on progress at FSU.

Time Resolution

He has done new time resolution tests with the new Hamamatsu PMT's. To do this back to use the CAEN constant-fraction discriminators. With the new tubes at two voltages:

Voltage (V) Resolution (ps) Comment
1750 140 recommended voltage
2000 114 maximum voltage

Compare this to the previous best measurement with the old Hamamatsu tubes at 2000 V of 124 ps.

These tests were done with Tyvek wrapping. When ESR was tried, at the higher voltage, the resolution was 112, not much improvement. Tests were also done with a 50-50 signal split. Resolution came out at 116 ps, very little effect.

beni: worry about running pmt's at maximum voltage request for lifetime estimate, lifetime usually quoted in terms of charge

Splitters

fernando has sent 2 splits and 2 inverters to fsu

new production lab, cleaning it, furnishing it

Beni: resolution goes linear with light output

tuning the constant fraction


have not gone to new trigger paddles using new data acquition system with leading edge discriminator: no timewalk correction 180 ps (t1 - t2)/2

Plans

FSU MOU

Paul sent new language , Elton put it in, will send to Glenn and Allison, liability language