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* Mark announced that, by default, we will not be using the phone anymore at these meetings. I someone does happen to have a need for a phone connection, just let Mark know in advance.
 
* Mark announced that, by default, we will not be using the phone anymore at these meetings. I someone does happen to have a need for a phone connection, just let Mark know in advance.
 
* Elliott announced that he and David will be attending the CLAS12 Service Oriented Architecture Workshop. Contact Elliott for more information.
 
* Elliott announced that he and David will be attending the CLAS12 Service Oriented Architecture Workshop. Contact Elliott for more information.
sub groups
 
  
matt calorimetry
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==Reconstruction sub-group reports==
  
list of things, 1234 segmentation,334 to switch
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===Calorimetry===
geometry not as flexible as originally thought
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will working on it
+
  
timing offsets
+
Matt gave the report.
time is set by timeof highest energy block
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xyz is not taken into account
+
will take some work and attention: matt will try this himself
+
  
simon, tracking
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* switch from 3-3-4 segmentation to 1-2-3-4 segmentation
 +
** geometry specification not as flexible as originally thought
 +
** Will is working on it
 +
* timing offsets
 +
** talking to Mihajlo: time is set by time of highest energy block
 +
** x,y,z is not taken into account
 +
** will take some work and attention: Matt will work on this
  
quality of track candidates
+
===Tracking===
found issues with angle guess for very forward going tracks
+
fixed up angle in track candidate
+
some minor changes
+
  
farming out fiducial cuts a possible issue
+
Simon gave the report.
design goal one degree
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paul pid
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* some problems have to do with the quality of track candidates
 +
** found issues with starting angle guess for very forward going tracks
 +
** fixed up angle in track candidate
 +
* some other minor changes
 +
* farming out fiducial cut study a possible issue
 +
** note: design goal for forward direction: down to one degree
  
new scheme, slightly different
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===PID===
  
hermes log of prob ratios beni
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Paul gave the report.
 
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instead of adding chisq , try to weight chisq from different sources, the way to do that is not clear, problem is that errors are correlated
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* revised PID scheme: see [[???|his slides]]
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** original slides presented at last Physics meeting
 +
** changes based on feedback received on email list
 +
** referred us to the slides for details
 +
* Beni: HERMES scheme used log of prob ratios
 +
** Beni will send around description of the scheme
 +
* idea: instead of adding chi-squared's, try to weight chi-squared from different sources
 +
** the way to do that is not clear
 +
** errors may be correlated
 +
** motivation: what if a single hit on a track if spurious: isn't that an out-sized effect on the sum of chi-squared's?
 +
** some skepticism expressed about validity of this concern
  
 
variable thresholds in code now. not how it will be done david
 
variable thresholds in code now. not how it will be done david

Revision as of 17:43, 21 September 2011

GlueX Offline Software Meeting
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
1:30 pm EDT
JLab: CEBAF Center F326

Agenda

  1. Announcements
  2. Review of minutes from the last meeting: all
  3. Reconstruction sub-group reports
    1. Calorimeters: Matt
    2. Tracking: Simon
    3. PID: Paul M.: GlueX Particle ID, Uncertainties Update
  4. Compressed Data Format Update: Richard or Igor
  5. BCAL Reconstruction Update: Will
  6. Plug-in to extract single particles from multi-particle events (email) : David
  7. Tracking explained: Simon
  8. Resources: an idea for managing large files: Dmitry
  9. Collaboration Meeting Agenda
  10. Action Item Review
  11. Review of recent repository activity: all

Communication Information

Telephone

To connect by telephone:

  1. dial:
  2. enter access code followed by the # sign: 3421244#

Video Conferencing

Slides

Talks can be deposited in the directory /group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2011-3Q on the JLab CUE. This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2011-3Q/ . You have to be a member of the "halld" Unix group to do this.

Minutes

Present:

  • CMU: Will Levine, Paul Mattione, Curtis Meyer
  • IU: Ryan Mitchell, Kei Moriya, Matt Shepherd
  • JLab: Hovanes Egiyan, Mark Ito (chair), David Lawrence, Yi Qiang, Dmitry Romanov, Elton Smith, Sascha Somov, Simon Taylor, Elliott Wolin
  • Regina: Andrei Semenov
  • FSU: Nathan Sparks

Announcements

  • Mark announced that, by default, we will not be using the phone anymore at these meetings. I someone does happen to have a need for a phone connection, just let Mark know in advance.
  • Elliott announced that he and David will be attending the CLAS12 Service Oriented Architecture Workshop. Contact Elliott for more information.

Reconstruction sub-group reports

Calorimetry

Matt gave the report.

  • switch from 3-3-4 segmentation to 1-2-3-4 segmentation
    • geometry specification not as flexible as originally thought
    • Will is working on it
  • timing offsets
    • talking to Mihajlo: time is set by time of highest energy block
    • x,y,z is not taken into account
    • will take some work and attention: Matt will work on this

Tracking

Simon gave the report.

  • some problems have to do with the quality of track candidates
    • found issues with starting angle guess for very forward going tracks
    • fixed up angle in track candidate
  • some other minor changes
  • farming out fiducial cut study a possible issue
    • note: design goal for forward direction: down to one degree

PID

Paul gave the report.

  • revised PID scheme: see his slides
    • original slides presented at last Physics meeting
    • changes based on feedback received on email list
    • referred us to the slides for details
  • Beni: HERMES scheme used log of prob ratios
    • Beni will send around description of the scheme
  • idea: instead of adding chi-squared's, try to weight chi-squared from different sources
    • the way to do that is not clear
    • errors may be correlated
    • motivation: what if a single hit on a track if spurious: isn't that an out-sized effect on the sum of chi-squared's?
    • some skepticism expressed about validity of this concern

variable thresholds in code now. not how it will be done david

Andrei: segmentation scheme, not agree, reconstrcution code effects energy resolution. if noise added or hits missed calibration will bias means

bother updating kloe: kloe default is still used in the fine segmentation scheme keep to kloe alive, keep for now

david

single particle plugin if two particles, two events are made

simon