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* '''JLab''': Eugene Chudakov, Chuck Hutton, Mark Ito (chair), Tim Whitlatch
 
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got scintillators back from plastic craft
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==Prototype Report==
three that came back were crazed
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5% iso alcohol. naptha,
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Lei reports that they got the scintillators back from Plastic Craft after re-polishing. Three of them came back badly crazed. One was OK. He says they made two mistakes:
ordered replacement paddles
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# They ignored the recommendation to only use isopropyl alcohol to clean the surfaces. Instead they used a solution of isopropyl alcohol and naphtha. The naphtha is petroleum based and attacked the scintillator surface.
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# They processed the counters in the following order: bend, machine, then polish. Preferred is: machine, polish, then bend.
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Plastic Craft has agreed to replace the scintillator and will try again with the new pieces. They will place an order with Eljen.
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FIU will test the undamaged piece. Its surface quality seems to have improved after re-polishing.
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werner looked at it, some candidates
 
werner looked at it, some candidates
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simple light guide design better
 
simple light guide design better
  
two mistakes:
 
ignored recommendation, iso, naphta, petroleum extract
 
damaged three
 
one that came back was better than before
 
 
other mistake: sequescen
 
bend machine, polish
 
machine and polish and then bend better
 
 
ordered replacement from elgen
 
 
if choice: hard to find replacement for plastic craft,
 
 
made a demand that they consult better
 
 
will try to test some
 
  
 
overlap between rohacell
 
overlap between rohacell

Revision as of 15:55, 17 November 2011

GlueX Start Counter Meeting
Thursday, November 17, 2011 10 am EST
JLab: CEBAF Center, Room F326/7

Agenda

  1. Announcements
  2. Review minutes from previous meeting
  3. Prototype Report
  4. SiPM configuration
  5. Contract Status
  6. Simulation Status [1]

Communication Information

Video Conferencing

Slides

Talks can be deposited in the directory /group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2011-4Q on the JLab CUE. This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2011-4Q/ . You have to be a member of the "halld" Unix group to put files in this directory.

Minutes

Present:

  • FIU: Lei Guo, Puneet Khetarpal
  • JLab: Eugene Chudakov, Chuck Hutton, Mark Ito (chair), Tim Whitlatch

Prototype Report

Lei reports that they got the scintillators back from Plastic Craft after re-polishing. Three of them came back badly crazed. One was OK. He says they made two mistakes:

  1. They ignored the recommendation to only use isopropyl alcohol to clean the surfaces. Instead they used a solution of isopropyl alcohol and naphtha. The naphtha is petroleum based and attacked the scintillator surface.
  2. They processed the counters in the following order: bend, machine, then polish. Preferred is: machine, polish, then bend.

Plastic Craft has agreed to replace the scintillator and will try again with the new pieces. They will place an order with Eljen.

FIU will test the undamaged piece. Its surface quality seems to have improved after re-polishing.


werner looked at it, some candidates 1x4 or 1x5 favored with 30 paddles

look at different products from H; mantis!!!

2x4 would also work

actively explore using 4x4 as is

explore opening up diameter of sc array

look in catalog

werner back next week

simple light guide design better


overlap between rohacell

need to make target geometry consistent

need a tagged release

action item, update drawings

are flat sides polished? usually come smooth from manufacturer

one concern: puneet, straight portion,

this simulation 24 paddles

working on rate and radiation dose using geant4