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* Mark purchased the raw light guide material as requested by Paul. It has been received at FSU.
 
* Mark purchased the raw light guide material as requested by Paul. It has been received at FSU.
  
Paul machine out of single piece
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==Mantis task tracker project for TOF==
want far enought awy to put shielding on
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shielding support, light guid support
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light guide glued to scint
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tim: how to attach to fcal
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- lots of decisions
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definition of light guide, need
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Mark pointed out that he has created a project to track TOF action items in the [??? Mantis Bug Tracker]. Any collaborator can create an account that uses your JLab password and add, modify, or remove entries.
paul will send chuck specification of pmt geometry
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two options:
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==Design and Prototyping==
1 bend lucite
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2 machine out of single piece
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paul arrange conference call on how to transmit 3-d design to nc machine
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We had a discussion centered around the [??? design drawings] enumerated by Paul and reserved in Oce by Chuck. Some of the issues discussed:
  
question on material
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* light guides must be bent to accomodate the diameter of the PMT's with their shielding, what is the best way to do this?
3" rod, ng, need 3.5" rod
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* how to best support the counter-light-guide-tube-cable assemblies
up to 3" standard
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* two options for manufacturing the bent light guides
price goes up from 3" to 3.5" up by factor of 2.5
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*# heat and bend the lucite
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*# machine entire 3-D shape out of single piece of lucite
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* Paul is looking into the single-piece option.
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** This method requires a 3.5" diameter lucite rod, unfortunately 3" is the largest "stock" size at McMaster. The price goes up by a factor of 2.5 if a custom size is ordered.
 +
* We discussed whether UV-transparent lucite was necessary.
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** Tests with both UVT and non-UVT light guides at FSU gave similar results, as expected.
 +
** Elton thought that UVT plastic was important for the BCAL; we will have to talk to him about this issue
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* Paul raised the possibility of using vapor polishing on the machined light guides. He has identified a company that will do a trail piece at no cost.
  
meeting designers thu, 11 am 30th
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We will have a meeting in a week, tentatively Thursday, June 30 at 10 am, with engineering and design folks at FSU and JLab to discuss how to proceed with producing drawings. Mark will send an announcement.
  
material for 3.5" send me what you want
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==Contract==
  
is uvt required
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We looked at the [schedule (i. e., the APP)]. We have slipped over a month from where we said we will be. Getting the drawings done is the next big step; it will force some decisions.
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Paul will write a draft statement of work. The required drawings and specifications will be called out if not detailed. He will send it to Mark who will pass it around for review.
  
vapor polishing: free trial offer, for light guides
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==Meeting Time==
paul will send out information
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paul will write draft statement of work with specification
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We decided on regular time for future meetings: bi-weekly, 10 am on Thursdays.
  send to mark and will be reviewed
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do pmt's need specification in fsu contract
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==New Action Items==
  
meeting time, 10 am on thursdays
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# Paul will send chuck specification of pmt geometry.
 +
# Talk to Elton about UVT light guides.
 +
# Schedule TOF design meeting for Thu. June 30.
 +
# Order 3.5" diameter lucite rod for light guide machining tests.
 +
# Distribute reference on vapor polishing.
 +
# Find out if PMT's need specification in FSU contract if they are being bought by JLab.

Revision as of 09:52, 24 June 2011

Location, Time

NOTE: Non-standard room, date, and time!

Thursday, May 23, 2011
11:00 am EDT
JLab: CEBAF Center, Room L207

Agenda

  1. Announcements
  2. Minutes from the last meeting
  3. Mantis task tracker project for TOF: Mark
  4. Prototype Status [1]
  5. Contract Status
  6. Meeting time

Communication

Videoconference

  1. ESNet: 8542553
  2. EVO: EVO site

Telephone

  1. dial:
  2. enter access code followed by the # sign: 3421244#

Slides

Talks can be deposited in the directory /group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2011-2Q on the JLab CUE. This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2011-2Q/ .

Minutes

Present:

  • FSU: Sasha Ostrovidov
  • JLab: Paul Eugenio, Chuck Hutton, Mark Ito, Simon Taylor, Tim Whitlatch, Beni Zihlmann

Minutes from the Last Meeting

We reviewed the minutes from the May 27th meeting.

  • Paul's students are back in Tallahassee after attending HUGS.
  • Mark purchased the raw light guide material as requested by Paul. It has been received at FSU.

Mantis task tracker project for TOF

Mark pointed out that he has created a project to track TOF action items in the [??? Mantis Bug Tracker]. Any collaborator can create an account that uses your JLab password and add, modify, or remove entries.

Design and Prototyping

We had a discussion centered around the [??? design drawings] enumerated by Paul and reserved in Oce by Chuck. Some of the issues discussed:

  • light guides must be bent to accomodate the diameter of the PMT's with their shielding, what is the best way to do this?
  • how to best support the counter-light-guide-tube-cable assemblies
  • two options for manufacturing the bent light guides
    1. heat and bend the lucite
    2. machine entire 3-D shape out of single piece of lucite
  • Paul is looking into the single-piece option.
    • This method requires a 3.5" diameter lucite rod, unfortunately 3" is the largest "stock" size at McMaster. The price goes up by a factor of 2.5 if a custom size is ordered.
  • We discussed whether UV-transparent lucite was necessary.
    • Tests with both UVT and non-UVT light guides at FSU gave similar results, as expected.
    • Elton thought that UVT plastic was important for the BCAL; we will have to talk to him about this issue
  • Paul raised the possibility of using vapor polishing on the machined light guides. He has identified a company that will do a trail piece at no cost.

We will have a meeting in a week, tentatively Thursday, June 30 at 10 am, with engineering and design folks at FSU and JLab to discuss how to proceed with producing drawings. Mark will send an announcement.

Contract

We looked at the [schedule (i. e., the APP)]. We have slipped over a month from where we said we will be. Getting the drawings done is the next big step; it will force some decisions.

Paul will write a draft statement of work. The required drawings and specifications will be called out if not detailed. He will send it to Mark who will pass it around for review.

Meeting Time

We decided on regular time for future meetings: bi-weekly, 10 am on Thursdays.

New Action Items

  1. Paul will send chuck specification of pmt geometry.
  2. Talk to Elton about UVT light guides.
  3. Schedule TOF design meeting for Thu. June 30.
  4. Order 3.5" diameter lucite rod for light guide machining tests.
  5. Distribute reference on vapor polishing.
  6. Find out if PMT's need specification in FSU contract if they are being bought by JLab.