June 30, 2009 CDC Meeting

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Meeting Time and Place

Tuesday June 30 2009 at 11:00am At Jefferson Lab, the meeting will be held in room ARC 428

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Agenda

  1. CDC Endplate Drawings Drawings
  2. CDC Donut/Feedthru Drawings Donuts


Questions/notes on the end plates

  • Back disc (without isometric view)
    • Point 5: counter-bore for stereo layers, why such a large diameter (.578), while diameter of the head of the feed thru is .500 in.?
      • Not required, we will change it to .531
    • Section B-B: why is the groove so deep (0.080 = 1/3 of the plate thickness)?
      • Wish to get as long a glue joint as possible
    • What about the inner gas shell? Is there supposed to be a groove for the inner shell?
      • We discussed this with Curtis at JLAB 7-7-09. We will put a C'bore for solid carbon fiber or fiberglass tube in upstream plate. Downstream will glue shell to inner bore of plate. Slav will create a layout showing this.
    • Is there a label foreseen to mark the start of each layer?
      • Yes, this is now on the drawing.
    • Is there a survey mark on the outside diameter of each plate for initial alignment?
      • Curtis to discus with Gary what type of mark and where.
  • Back disk (with isometric view)
    • We assume that inner/outer gas shell is not drawn?
      • yes
    • The holes:
      • What are the 2 top holes (outside gas volume) for? (2x .265)
        • Lifting features
      • 2 holes at +-50 degrees outside gas volumes are fiducials?
        • Yes
      • 12 holes starting at 15 degrees (I count counter clockwise) are for rods?
        • Yes
      • 6 remaining holes are for getting the gas inlets to the downstream end-plenum? Why are they so "far" away from the rods? We thought they are going to be cable-tied to the rods? Why is the diameter of those holes not larger?
    • Are there standoffs for the mylar sheet?


  • Front disc (without isometric view)
    • [ADDRESSED] section B-B: inner plexiglass holder -> why the step
    • [OPEN QUESTION] inner shell: how will it be attached?
    • Is there anything foreseen for (grounding) standoffs?
    • Label to mark the start of each layer?
    • Survey mark for alignment at outer radius?
  • Front disc (with isometric view)
    • The holes:
      • what are the two holes on the top, outside the gas volume?
      • 6 holes starting at 0 degrees outside the gas volume are fiducials?
      • 6 big holes at the top are for gas exaust (main volume to outside plenum)?
      • 12 holes starting at 15 degrees are rods?
      • We found again 6 holes relatively close (but not close enough we think) to the rods: gas to the downstream end-plenum? Why is diameter not larger (like 6 upper ones)?
      • 24 tap holes (12 starting at 5 degrees and 12 starting at 25 degrees) as standoff for the swiss chees plate. Will this be enough for gas-tightness?
      • We noticed the 6 gas-thru holes in the top are at a different radius (larger) than the other holes, why larger?
      • Also in the bottom area we see holes at 2 slightly different radii, what is the reason for that?
    • Gas: we think there are 6 holes missing in the top of this end plate: bleeding holes so the gas can "leak" into the main gas volume between the straws, are we missing something here?

Notes

  • CDC Front Disc
    • Section B-B, what is the small step? Small step to engage the inner hub.
    • What will hold the inner tube to the end plates? Without the gas plenum, there is 3/8" on radius and after the polycarbonate, at least that much.
    • OPEN How thick is ring on which inner tube is glued?
    • Threaded inserts? These are for screwing in the gas plenum. Used in conjunction with the above mentioned groove to position plenum.
  • Holes Sizes
  • Crimp pin to plastic insert - CMU will think about the fit.
    • Plastic inserts are all the same, make go 0.1" past the feed-thru.(Looks like 1.2).
    • Gary wants a slip interference fit. line-to-line fit.
  • Plastic Insert
    • Want the counter-bored shoulder.


  • Donuts and feed through both have glue port and vent.
  • Feed through groove moved from 0.19 to 0.25" from tip on both Noryl and Al.
  • Depth of drilled holes changes (Noryl is 0.56", AL is 0.7").
  • Material for injection molding, HallB used glass-filled Noryl, What did Hall A use, does Eugene know?
  • Get Mac-Master Carr part & grade for Noryl for donuts and feed thrus.