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*[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/software/wiki/index.php/Sep_2%2C_2008_Calorimetry#Calibration_Specifications_Table Calibration Specifications Table] for BCAL, FCAL, TOF and START
 
*[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/software/wiki/index.php/Sep_2%2C_2008_Calorimetry#Calibration_Specifications_Table Calibration Specifications Table] for BCAL, FCAL, TOF and START
 
* [[Calibration and Monitoring System Meetings]] Previous minutes
 
* [[Calibration and Monitoring System Meetings]] Previous minutes
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* [[Responses from Kappos]]
  
 
= Action Items =
 
= Action Items =
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## Summary of CAN protocol for Fcal bases (Paul)
 
## Summary of CAN protocol for Fcal bases (Paul)
 
## Comments on Hall D slow controls (Elliott/Hovanes)
 
## Comments on Hall D slow controls (Elliott/Hovanes)
# [http://argus.phys.uregina.ca/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=1715 Points for Discussion]  (Elton)
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# [https://halldweb.jlab.org/doc-private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=1715 Points for Discussion]  (Elton)
 
# Updates from Athens (Christina)
 
# Updates from Athens (Christina)
  
 
= Minutes =
 
= Minutes =
''Attending: Christina, George, George Lolos, Kappos, Stigaris (Athens); Matt, Paul (IU); Elton, Beni, Eugene, Hovanes, Elliott, Dave (JLab);
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''Attending: Christina, George, Pavlos, George Lolos, Efthimios Kappos, Stathis Stiliaris (Athens); Matt, Paul (IU); Elton, Beni, Eugene, Hovanes, Elliott, Dave (JLab); Zisis, Andrei, Mehrnoosh Tahani (UofR).
  
 
# Communications  
 
# Communications  
 
## Summary of CAN protocol for Fcal bases (Paul)
 
## Summary of CAN protocol for Fcal bases (Paul)
## Comments on Hall D slow controls (Elliott/Hovanes)
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##* Fcal bases require voltage setting and read back, temperatures, 7 ADCs on board.
# [http://argus.phys.uregina.ca/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=1715 Points for Discussion]  (Elton)
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##* Large number of nodes, low speed, modest data volume
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##* CAN needs special controller. One ethernet to CAN bridge supporting a few segments, where each segment has up to 100 nodes.
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##* Questioned the need for CAN bus complexity for the monitoring application and suggested ethernet, Note: Later in discussion when 100 controllers were being considered, this suggestion appeared less attractive
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## Kappos reminded everyone of capability of present controllers
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##* setting triggering modes
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##* setting voltage
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##* flashing control
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## Discussion focused on the requirements that drove the needs for a control system
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##* Elton mentioned that selective triggering was one reason for control. But after consideration it was decided that a passive system with four trigger lines would meet the requirement
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##* It was also agreed that a single voltage could be supplied to all LEDs (no specific settings per control board)
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##* Triggering would be achieved via four external signals provided to all controllers that would pass these on to each of the four chains per control board.
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# [https://halldweb.jlab.org/doc-private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=1715 Points for Discussion]  (Elton)
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## Elton went over the slides and space constraints for the monitoring boards
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## With the simplification of the control board, the system is likely to fit into the available space.
 
# Updates from Athens (Christina)
 
# Updates from Athens (Christina)
''Attendees:
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## Kapos explained how the circuit would be rearranged from star to daisy-chain configuration:
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## The new daisy-chain board would add a buffer and capacitor to accept high impedance as a driver for the LED trigger.
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## Also, the new control board simplified would require considerably less power. The voltage bias signal would be filtered only.
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## There is also a new scheme to install the LED at a 15 deg angle to the board (presently it is parallel), to each attachment of fiber as input to the light guide. This should be considered carefully for mass production of LED boards.

Latest revision as of 16:14, 24 February 2017

Teleconference Time 11:00 EDT

  • Connection: ESNET

Background information

Action Items

  1. Can George calculate the % deviation from linearity on his plot?
  2. Christina will probe Kapos for cabling and other board issues.

Tentative Agenda

  1. Communications
    1. Summary of CAN protocol for Fcal bases (Paul)
    2. Comments on Hall D slow controls (Elliott/Hovanes)
  2. Points for Discussion (Elton)
  3. Updates from Athens (Christina)

Minutes

Attending: Christina, George, Pavlos, George Lolos, Efthimios Kappos, Stathis Stiliaris (Athens); Matt, Paul (IU); Elton, Beni, Eugene, Hovanes, Elliott, Dave (JLab); Zisis, Andrei, Mehrnoosh Tahani (UofR).

  1. Communications
    1. Summary of CAN protocol for Fcal bases (Paul)
      • Fcal bases require voltage setting and read back, temperatures, 7 ADCs on board.
      • Large number of nodes, low speed, modest data volume
      • CAN needs special controller. One ethernet to CAN bridge supporting a few segments, where each segment has up to 100 nodes.
      • Questioned the need for CAN bus complexity for the monitoring application and suggested ethernet, Note: Later in discussion when 100 controllers were being considered, this suggestion appeared less attractive
    2. Kappos reminded everyone of capability of present controllers
      • setting triggering modes
      • setting voltage
      • flashing control
    3. Discussion focused on the requirements that drove the needs for a control system
      • Elton mentioned that selective triggering was one reason for control. But after consideration it was decided that a passive system with four trigger lines would meet the requirement
      • It was also agreed that a single voltage could be supplied to all LEDs (no specific settings per control board)
      • Triggering would be achieved via four external signals provided to all controllers that would pass these on to each of the four chains per control board.
  2. Points for Discussion (Elton)
    1. Elton went over the slides and space constraints for the monitoring boards
    2. With the simplification of the control board, the system is likely to fit into the available space.
  3. Updates from Athens (Christina)
    1. Kapos explained how the circuit would be rearranged from star to daisy-chain configuration:
    2. The new daisy-chain board would add a buffer and capacitor to accept high impedance as a driver for the LED trigger.
    3. Also, the new control board simplified would require considerably less power. The voltage bias signal would be filtered only.
    4. There is also a new scheme to install the LED at a 15 deg angle to the board (presently it is parallel), to each attachment of fiber as input to the light guide. This should be considered carefully for mass production of LED boards.