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#* Package #3 repair
 
#* Package #3 repair
 
# Installation (Lubomir, Bill)
 
# Installation (Lubomir, Bill)
#* Cable installation: Richard's models [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/installation/FDC-CDC_WIRE_PRE-INSTALLED.pdf],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/installation/FDC_WIRE_FDC_OFF_CART.pdf],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/installation/FDC_WIRE_INSTALLED.pdf]
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#* Cable installation: Rich's models [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/installation/FDC-CDC_WIRE_PRE-INSTALLED.pdf],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/installation/FDC_WIRE_FDC_OFF_CART.pdf],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/installation/FDC_WIRE_INSTALLED.pdf]
 
#* Plans for practicing at Blue Crab  
 
#* Plans for practicing at Blue Crab  
 
# Engineering (Bill)
 
# Engineering (Bill)
#* Cooling system status
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#* Cooling system test [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/drawings/modified_flow_model.pdf], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/drawings/flow_model_additions.PNG], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/drawings/FLOW_CALIBRATION_ASSEMBLY.PNG]
 
# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
 
# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
# Tests at EEL126 [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/FDC FDC E-log] (Beni)
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# Tests at EEL126 [https://halldweb.jlab.org/elog-halld/FDC FDC E-log] (Beni)
 
# Other
 
# Other
 
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= Minutes =
 
= Minutes =
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== Production ==
 
== Production ==
  
- Dave: the last two wire frames populated by Chris. The only remaining operation is to deaden four wire planes. The extra spare cathode type-2 is tensioned, but the cards are not installed yet by purpose (for easy storage).
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- Dave: will start wire deadening tomorrow; wire frames #2 and #3 will be the first to go with. In total 4 wire frames have to be deadened.  
  
- Package #3 repair: last Friday we started testing the top cell (after we opened it once and removed a lint) and it was tripping again. On Monday we opened the package for a second time and looked more carefully: there were some small balls on two sense wires and a section of a field wire that looked suspicious. We tried to clean these places and closed the package, turned out again without success. Troubleshooting the problem is difficult because it appears from time to time once per several hours. The dark currents are very low, there's no constant noise  and we can't localize the problem. We decided to open the package tomorrow morning, put the wire frame on the stringing table at 90deg (Bill's idea) and scan the wires with the camera. We will clean if possible, or replace the bad wires and next week will give it another try. If it still doesn't work, we will put a spare wire frame (#28, it had higher dark (~350nA) current but was stable for weeks).
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- Package #3 repair: we scanned all the wires of the HV sector #2 (on the wire frame of cell #6) using the camera of the motion station on the stringing table. There were three field wires with some stuff we could not clean. We disconnected these wires from the HV side, by un-soldering and cutting the end of the wire, but without success: the HV problem remained. Then we removed half of resistors at the HV side of the sense wires and the problem went away. Using this method we went down to 5 questionable wires, and at this moment Anatoly found a tip of a sense wire (~5mm) sticking out of the solder. After fixing this, the chamber now is holding HV already 10 hours. We will wait till tomorrow and then Casey will replace the three field wires, so the wire plane will be ready for installation by Monday. Bill suggested to glue/tape somehow the spacer ring to the wire frame when mounting it from the back of the package; will need more people for the cell isntallation.
  
 
== Installation ==
 
== Installation ==
  
- The last, "frozen" schedule moved the FDC installation just by a couple of days. Now the FDC insertion is in the middle of January 2014, dictated mainly by the electronics. Since the testing outside of the magnet should start much earlier we must be able to test the different packages connecting to the same electronics.  
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- Yesterday, there was a "FDC cable installation" meeting on which Rich Getz presented his new plan shown on the three pictures attached above. Important change: the cables coming from the back of the installation cart don't have to run to the front of the magnet to reach the cable trays. This is possible because of the new openings in the floor  next to the rails for the carts. These openings are just on the top of a new cable tray. To support the cables on the top, there will be a temporary movable frame. Beni suggested how to organize the cables on the top to make the insertion easier. Bill explained how the cables will be attached in between the packages and how the strain relief will be provided: using carbon tubes at the periphery.  
  
- With Eugene, Bill, and Fernando together there were long discussions about the cabling. There was a concern (Lubomir) that with the current installation scheme, when the FDC is inserted one needs extra cable that is one cart long. In total we will need about 3 x 2.5 carts which might be close to 18m, the length of the signal cables. Bill will check that with the I-deas model. Fernando insisted that we have to keep the cables fixed to the racks at the downstream end and never un-bundle them. In this case the question is where to put the extra bundles that are 6-7m long after the insertion of the FDC: if possible somewhere at the front of the magnet??
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- Everybody thinks this is a very good solution for the FDC cabling. Another important feature: the CDC cables will use a separate cable tray at the bottom below the platform. Thus, the installations of the FDC and CDC cables become independent.
  
- Installation of the cables from the two bottom quadrants will be difficult because of the small opening going to the bottom (below the platform) trays. Bill had an idea to elevate the racks so that the space below them will be accessible from the front and the cables can run there. This makes the cable installation much easier, but requires taller people to service the electronics. Other options: 1) disconnecting the cables from the electronics before FDC insertion and re-connecting them again after the insertion (Lubomir), but has to be done every time we take FDC out of the magnet. 2) Putting all the cables on the top side of the racks (Eugene), but the length might not be enough and it will be more difficult to work there.
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- LV cabling: in the current scheme all the FDC LV cables (140) are connected to one rack. Fernando advocated to keep this scheme and bring half of the LV cables from one side to the other somehow at the front of the magnet. Doing this directly on the mesh might be problematic due to the small distance to BCAL, but Bill will look at this. Attaching additional support ring at the front of the magnet for the CDC cables (Bill) may help.  
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- We discussed possible practicing at Blue Crab with the following configuration. We will use two installation carts, going downstream, one for one half of the mesh cylinder, and the other for one FDC package and the mock-up. The idea is to prototype one quadrant of the signal cables (132). The cables for that quadrant will come from the FDC package and the rest will be attached to the mock-up representing the other three packages. The cables will be attached up to the end of the mesh running between the rails. We have all the major parts to do this. The bearings on the mesh have to be installed. Will move also 132 signal cables from 117 to Blue Crab.
  
 
== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
- Bill and Casey tested the cooling of package #4 that has the manifolds installed: first with CO2 at 100psi and then with Flurinert, pressured again with CO2. No significant leakage was found with CO2, but with Flurinert it was leaking like a sieve (Bill) however mostly at the temporary barb connections needed to do the test, while the compression connections didn't show obvious problems. It turned out the leakage detector we have is not very sensitive to Fluorinert. So, for the next test we need better fittings and leakage detector.
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- Bill made some modifications to the cooling system tests (see drawings attached), but the system will be ready very soon. He ordered also a sniffer for Fluorinert and as soon as we have it we can start the test. It will be done in 126, first just will check the pressure and make sure there are no leakages, then we will do the tests with the pre-amps powered.
  
- Bill ordered three more manifold (Norel material), because three were damaged during the installation. Bill also ordered new G10 pieces that are needed to hold the tubes at the 210deg mounting place.  
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- The tests with the pressurized Fluorinert  in the cooling loops of package #4 will continue after we get the sniffer. Then we can continue mounting the manifolds on the other packages. Next week we will have the G10 pieces needed to install the manifolds at the 210deg point.
  
 
== Electronics ==
 
== Electronics ==
  
- Fernando: we have already 16 fADC125 and Cody is testing them. Some delays in this pre-production and the procurement is helping to accelerate it.
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- Fernando: we have 20 fADC125 that can be used; still Cody has to finish with the tests. Generally there were problems with the quality of the boards, and the communication with the company wasn't easy. Now with the help of the procurement we hope they will improve the quality, but there will be a delay at least of a month.  
  
 
== Tests at EEL126 ==
 
== Tests at EEL126 ==
  
- Beni at the beginning of the meeting showed results from the tests of the last production package (#2): entry 108 in the FDC E-log. All the channels without any exceptions are working fine. One of the HV connectors (from the side of the detector) had some issues, but was connected. 
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- Beni: there was an "accident" with the CAEN 1550P module: the HV on all the sense wire channels jumped from 2100V (nominal) to ~2350V (the hardware limit). Surprisingly, the chamber held this HV, except for a couple of channels. Thus (unwillingly) we proved that the plateau of the chamber can be as wide as 350V, and tested all the HV capacitors at once! Beni replaced the HV module with a new one and all the channels were OK. This is the second CAEN module showing this problem. Therefore, one has to always lower the hardware limit (there's a pot on the back) and don't rely on the software only.  
 
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- The plan is to start preparing for the tests with the full electronics. For this tests, Beni's plan (not present at these discussions) is not to read all the samples, but to have the charge integration and timing extraction done in the ROCs. Eugene: what is the advantage of this compared to just writing all the samples to the disk and later do this off-line. Obviously, writing and reading the files will take much more time, but Beni may have better explanation. As for the cooling Bill says it must be ready in few weeks. A water chiller will be borrowed from FEL, instead of repairing the one they offered us before.
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== Other ==
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- NO FDC meeting next week.
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- Beni successfully tested his code running on the ROCs that calculates the charge and the time using the raw data from the fADC125s. However, this introduces some noticeable dead time in the DAQ.
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This might be important when reading 14 fADCs in the full electronics test, instead of one per crate as it is now. Simon suggested looking at the code and try to speed it up. Beni also may give up the precise time calculations (using Gerard's algorithm) that we don't need now.
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- Beni is done with package #2 and we can move it back to Blue Crab.

Latest revision as of 03:23, 1 April 2015

April 4, 2013 FDC meeting

Agenda

  1. Production Construction Tracking (Dave)
    • Package #3 repair
  2. Installation (Lubomir, Bill)
    • Cable installation: Rich's models [1], [2], [3]
    • Plans for practicing at Blue Crab
  3. Engineering (Bill)
  4. Electronics (Chris, Nick)
  5. Tests at EEL126 FDC E-log (Beni)
  6. Other

Minutes

Participants: Fernando, Eugene, Bill, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Beni, and Lubomir.

Production

- Dave: will start wire deadening tomorrow; wire frames #2 and #3 will be the first to go with. In total 4 wire frames have to be deadened.

- Package #3 repair: we scanned all the wires of the HV sector #2 (on the wire frame of cell #6) using the camera of the motion station on the stringing table. There were three field wires with some stuff we could not clean. We disconnected these wires from the HV side, by un-soldering and cutting the end of the wire, but without success: the HV problem remained. Then we removed half of resistors at the HV side of the sense wires and the problem went away. Using this method we went down to 5 questionable wires, and at this moment Anatoly found a tip of a sense wire (~5mm) sticking out of the solder. After fixing this, the chamber now is holding HV already 10 hours. We will wait till tomorrow and then Casey will replace the three field wires, so the wire plane will be ready for installation by Monday. Bill suggested to glue/tape somehow the spacer ring to the wire frame when mounting it from the back of the package; will need more people for the cell isntallation.

Installation

- Yesterday, there was a "FDC cable installation" meeting on which Rich Getz presented his new plan shown on the three pictures attached above. Important change: the cables coming from the back of the installation cart don't have to run to the front of the magnet to reach the cable trays. This is possible because of the new openings in the floor next to the rails for the carts. These openings are just on the top of a new cable tray. To support the cables on the top, there will be a temporary movable frame. Beni suggested how to organize the cables on the top to make the insertion easier. Bill explained how the cables will be attached in between the packages and how the strain relief will be provided: using carbon tubes at the periphery.

- Everybody thinks this is a very good solution for the FDC cabling. Another important feature: the CDC cables will use a separate cable tray at the bottom below the platform. Thus, the installations of the FDC and CDC cables become independent.

- LV cabling: in the current scheme all the FDC LV cables (140) are connected to one rack. Fernando advocated to keep this scheme and bring half of the LV cables from one side to the other somehow at the front of the magnet. Doing this directly on the mesh might be problematic due to the small distance to BCAL, but Bill will look at this. Attaching additional support ring at the front of the magnet for the CDC cables (Bill) may help.

- We discussed possible practicing at Blue Crab with the following configuration. We will use two installation carts, going downstream, one for one half of the mesh cylinder, and the other for one FDC package and the mock-up. The idea is to prototype one quadrant of the signal cables (132). The cables for that quadrant will come from the FDC package and the rest will be attached to the mock-up representing the other three packages. The cables will be attached up to the end of the mesh running between the rails. We have all the major parts to do this. The bearings on the mesh have to be installed. Will move also 132 signal cables from 117 to Blue Crab.

Engineering

- Bill made some modifications to the cooling system tests (see drawings attached), but the system will be ready very soon. He ordered also a sniffer for Fluorinert and as soon as we have it we can start the test. It will be done in 126, first just will check the pressure and make sure there are no leakages, then we will do the tests with the pre-amps powered.

- The tests with the pressurized Fluorinert in the cooling loops of package #4 will continue after we get the sniffer. Then we can continue mounting the manifolds on the other packages. Next week we will have the G10 pieces needed to install the manifolds at the 210deg point.

Electronics

- Fernando: we have 20 fADC125 that can be used; still Cody has to finish with the tests. Generally there were problems with the quality of the boards, and the communication with the company wasn't easy. Now with the help of the procurement we hope they will improve the quality, but there will be a delay at least of a month.

Tests at EEL126

- Beni: there was an "accident" with the CAEN 1550P module: the HV on all the sense wire channels jumped from 2100V (nominal) to ~2350V (the hardware limit). Surprisingly, the chamber held this HV, except for a couple of channels. Thus (unwillingly) we proved that the plateau of the chamber can be as wide as 350V, and tested all the HV capacitors at once! Beni replaced the HV module with a new one and all the channels were OK. This is the second CAEN module showing this problem. Therefore, one has to always lower the hardware limit (there's a pot on the back) and don't rely on the software only.

- Beni successfully tested his code running on the ROCs that calculates the charge and the time using the raw data from the fADC125s. However, this introduces some noticeable dead time in the DAQ. This might be important when reading 14 fADCs in the full electronics test, instead of one per crate as it is now. Simon suggested looking at the code and try to speed it up. Beni also may give up the precise time calculations (using Gerard's algorithm) that we don't need now.

- Beni is done with package #2 and we can move it back to Blue Crab.