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=Agenda=
 
=Agenda=
  
* Announcements
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* Informal discussion on DAQ status - Graham H, Dave A.
* Review of minutes from [[OWG meeting 27-Jun-2008|27-Jun-2008]] meeting
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* Fiber test stand status - Beni
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* IU test stand status - Elliott
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* DAQ status - Graham, Dave A.
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* AOT
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==Time/Location==
 
==Time/Location==
  
1pm Fri 11-Jul-2008 CC F326<br>
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1pm Fri 11-Jul-2008 third floor CC hallway across from Elke's office, near the whiteboard.  We ended up in F227.
  
  
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=Minutes=
 
=Minutes=
  
Attendees:
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Attendees: Elliott W, Graham H, Dave A, Simon T, Carl T, Fernando B, Jim S, Alex S.
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'''DAQ Progress'''
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Graham gave a quick overview of recent DAQ progress.  Many DAQ group members have been on vacation recently, though.
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* EMU
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** tested using simulated ROC input and real data transport. 
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** shell written in Java, calls C++ routines via JNI.
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** receives and builds ok, now needs to work on send module.
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** implements runtime choice of in/build/out modules.
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** full prototype expected by Sep 2008, on schedule.
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** needs to work out strategy for global configuration change.
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* 200 kHz test
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** hardware coming along - TI, FADC
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** readout libs in good shape
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** two-crate test by Fall 2008
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* CODA 3 ROC is moving along, but slowly
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* Manpower needed - admin agreed to new hires but no money yet.  No hires means slower progress.
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* Linux ROC readout libs - problem with manufacturer's VME library, no Endian swapping!  Hope for correct version soon, if not can kludge something up.
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'''Online Farm in Computer Center'''
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We had a long discussion on whether it makes sense to locate the H-D online farm and perhaps other online computers in the CC.
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The idea is to save money on sys admins, spares, and infrastructure.  We identified many pros and cons:
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* No savings on sys admins, as we would be charged for "work for others."
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* But may be more efficient, as many sys admins might share the load.
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* Have to identify a clear advantage to H-D to do this - none identified yet.
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* Will we get 24/7 response from CC sys admins?
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* What would be the role of the H-D sys admin?
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* What might be located in the CC:  farm, EB's and ER's, other stuff?  Dave showed two possible architectures: [[Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ1.pdf]] and [[Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ2.pdf]].  Others are possible.
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* How to get 3 GB/s from H-D to CC, and what does it cost?
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Elliott will look into cost of transport, Graham will work on manpower issues related to this.
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Later...networking guys (Bryan and Brent) say that moving 3 GB/s from the CH to the CC will not be a problem at the time we might need it.  The network infrastructure at that time will easily handle this data rate with no modifications.

Latest revision as of 11:05, 14 July 2008

Agenda

  • Informal discussion on DAQ status - Graham H, Dave A.


Time/Location

1pm Fri 11-Jul-2008 third floor CC hallway across from Elke's office, near the whiteboard. We ended up in F227.


Announcements

Next Meeting

25-Jul-2008 1pm CC F326


New Action Items from this Meeting

Minutes

Attendees: Elliott W, Graham H, Dave A, Simon T, Carl T, Fernando B, Jim S, Alex S.


DAQ Progress

Graham gave a quick overview of recent DAQ progress. Many DAQ group members have been on vacation recently, though.

  • EMU
    • tested using simulated ROC input and real data transport.
    • shell written in Java, calls C++ routines via JNI.
    • receives and builds ok, now needs to work on send module.
    • implements runtime choice of in/build/out modules.
    • full prototype expected by Sep 2008, on schedule.
    • needs to work out strategy for global configuration change.
  • 200 kHz test
    • hardware coming along - TI, FADC
    • readout libs in good shape
    • two-crate test by Fall 2008
  • CODA 3 ROC is moving along, but slowly
  • Manpower needed - admin agreed to new hires but no money yet. No hires means slower progress.
  • Linux ROC readout libs - problem with manufacturer's VME library, no Endian swapping! Hope for correct version soon, if not can kludge something up.


Online Farm in Computer Center

We had a long discussion on whether it makes sense to locate the H-D online farm and perhaps other online computers in the CC. The idea is to save money on sys admins, spares, and infrastructure. We identified many pros and cons:

  • No savings on sys admins, as we would be charged for "work for others."
  • But may be more efficient, as many sys admins might share the load.
  • Have to identify a clear advantage to H-D to do this - none identified yet.
  • Will we get 24/7 response from CC sys admins?
  • What would be the role of the H-D sys admin?
  • What might be located in the CC: farm, EB's and ER's, other stuff? Dave showed two possible architectures: Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ1.pdf and Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ2.pdf. Others are possible.
  • How to get 3 GB/s from H-D to CC, and what does it cost?

Elliott will look into cost of transport, Graham will work on manpower issues related to this.

Later...networking guys (Bryan and Brent) say that moving 3 GB/s from the CH to the CC will not be a problem at the time we might need it. The network infrastructure at that time will easily handle this data rate with no modifications.