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'''Online Farm in Computer Center'''
 
'''Online Farm in Computer Center'''
  
We had a long discussion on this, and identified many pros and cons.
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We had a long discussion on whether it makes sense to locate the H-D online farm and perhaps other online computers in the CC.
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The idea is to save money on sys admins, spares, and infrastructure.  We identified many pros and cons:
  
* no savings on sys admins, as we would be charged for "work for others."
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* No savings on sys admins, as we would be charged for "work for others."
* but may be more efficient, as many sys admins might share the load.
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* But may be more efficient, as many sys admins might share the load.
* have to identify a clear advantage to H-D to do this - none identified yet.
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* Have to identify a clear advantage to H-D to do this - none identified yet.
* will we get 24/7 response from CC sys admins?
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* Will we get 24/7 response from CC sys admins?
* what would be the role of the H-D sys admin?
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* What would be the role of the H-D sys admin?
* what might be located in the CC:  farm, EB's and ER's, other stuff?  Dave showed two possible architectures.
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* What might be located in the CC:  farm, EB's and ER's, other stuff?  Dave showed two possible architectures: [[Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ1.pdf]] and [[Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ2.pdf]].  Others are possible.
* how to get 3 GB/s from H-D to CC, and what does it cost?
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* How to get 3 GB/s from H-D to CC, and what does it cost?
  
 
Elliott will look into cost of transport, Graham will work on manpower issues related to this.
 
Elliott will look into cost of transport, Graham will work on manpower issues related to this.
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Later...networking guys (Bryan and Brent) say that moving 3 GB/s from the CH to the CC will not be a problem at the time we might need it.  The network infrastructure at that time will easily handle this data rate with no modifications.

Latest revision as of 11:05, 14 July 2008

Agenda

  • Informal discussion on DAQ status - Graham H, Dave A.


Time/Location

1pm Fri 11-Jul-2008 third floor CC hallway across from Elke's office, near the whiteboard. We ended up in F227.


Announcements

Next Meeting

25-Jul-2008 1pm CC F326


New Action Items from this Meeting

Minutes

Attendees: Elliott W, Graham H, Dave A, Simon T, Carl T, Fernando B, Jim S, Alex S.


DAQ Progress

Graham gave a quick overview of recent DAQ progress. Many DAQ group members have been on vacation recently, though.

  • EMU
    • tested using simulated ROC input and real data transport.
    • shell written in Java, calls C++ routines via JNI.
    • receives and builds ok, now needs to work on send module.
    • implements runtime choice of in/build/out modules.
    • full prototype expected by Sep 2008, on schedule.
    • needs to work out strategy for global configuration change.
  • 200 kHz test
    • hardware coming along - TI, FADC
    • readout libs in good shape
    • two-crate test by Fall 2008
  • CODA 3 ROC is moving along, but slowly
  • Manpower needed - admin agreed to new hires but no money yet. No hires means slower progress.
  • Linux ROC readout libs - problem with manufacturer's VME library, no Endian swapping! Hope for correct version soon, if not can kludge something up.


Online Farm in Computer Center

We had a long discussion on whether it makes sense to locate the H-D online farm and perhaps other online computers in the CC. The idea is to save money on sys admins, spares, and infrastructure. We identified many pros and cons:

  • No savings on sys admins, as we would be charged for "work for others."
  • But may be more efficient, as many sys admins might share the load.
  • Have to identify a clear advantage to H-D to do this - none identified yet.
  • Will we get 24/7 response from CC sys admins?
  • What would be the role of the H-D sys admin?
  • What might be located in the CC: farm, EB's and ER's, other stuff? Dave showed two possible architectures: Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ1.pdf and Media:online_11-jul-2008_DAQ2.pdf. Others are possible.
  • How to get 3 GB/s from H-D to CC, and what does it cost?

Elliott will look into cost of transport, Graham will work on manpower issues related to this.

Later...networking guys (Bryan and Brent) say that moving 3 GB/s from the CH to the CC will not be a problem at the time we might need it. The network infrastructure at that time will easily handle this data rate with no modifications.