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== Meeting Time and Place ==
 
== Meeting Time and Place ==
  
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Thursday August 15 3pm
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Monday Sept 9 2pm
 
At Jefferson Lab, room TED 2504
 
At Jefferson Lab, room TED 2504
  
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== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
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* Discuss 40x40 crystal assembly
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* Discuss 40x40 crystal assembly with 19 Lead glass modules around
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** 40x40 crystal matrix layout  [[Media:40x40_crystal_matrix_layout.pdf]]
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** Crystals move to 12.5 cm from US face of lead glass
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** 40x40 crystal matrix starts with shim to be able to go to 32x32 fairly easy.
 
** Decision to pre-measure stacks of crystals and the existing FCAL to determine bottom row offsets
 
** Decision to pre-measure stacks of crystals and the existing FCAL to determine bottom row offsets
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** Shimming of row above crystals may be needed
 
 
* Discuss installing Rohacel US of crystals to fill hole and support the lead glass blocks
 
* Discuss installing Rohacel US of crystals to fill hole and support the lead glass blocks
 
** Rohacel properties  [[Media:Rohacel cut sheet.pdf]]
 
** Rohacel properties  [[Media:Rohacel cut sheet.pdf]]
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** http://www.phenix.bnl.gov/WWW/publish/bosze/phenixnote272/radiation.html  (same data)
 
** http://www.phenix.bnl.gov/WWW/publish/bosze/phenixnote272/radiation.html  (same data)
 
* Discuss Tungsten absorber
 
* Discuss Tungsten absorber
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** How many crystals does it cover?
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** Cover 1.5 crystals ok?
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** How to support it and the blocks above
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** Rohacell supported
 
* Monitoring System
 
* Monitoring System
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** Is acrylic sheet good enough for crystals?
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** Use Acrylic sheet, how thick?
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* How were original FCAL lead glass modules stacked?
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** How to attach fibers?
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** Matt Shepherd stated that they were rotated 90 degrees every other one and bottom row was shimmed as required.
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* Cooling of blocks - 2.1 KW needed
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** What should the shim material be
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** 2 Chillers like those used for BCAL ($16K ea)
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* 3D Screenshots
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** 4 water to air Heat exchangers around crystal area
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** Overall Iso View Sept 2018 [[Media:Iso.png]]
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** 9 parallel circuits for each chiller
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** Cooling Iso View Sept 2018 [[Media:Cooling Iso.jpg]]
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** potted copper tube into aluminum blocks
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** Cooling-compression Plate Iso View Sept 2018 [[Media:Cooling-compression Iso.jpg]]
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** Cooling of inner tube - removeable plate
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* electronics patch panels DS of crystal pmts
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* Brass strap soldering progress
  
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== Minutes ==
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== Minutes and Action Items ==
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* Discussed overall geometry and decided 40x40 crystal plus 19 lead glass block layers surrounding the crystals covered a wide enough area. The attached layout shows the trajectory of the particles grazing the BCAL [[Media:Particle trajectory through BCAL.pdf]] . Adding additional layers around the this would mean we would have to buils a new support structure to accommodate. The 40x40 crystal stack requires the 1st lead glass stack to be shimmed 3-4mm to ensure we can easily convert to 32x32 if we do not have enough crystals or pmts.
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* Discussed the cabling and patch panel requirements for the crystal modules. A type similar to the ComCal was discussed but with smaller SHV connectors. It was decided to take a field trip into the FCAL darkroom to discuss.
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* Discussed the center support tube
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* Tungesten absorber can be supported by the rohacell and be 6 cm thick. Sasha will need to look at the total coverage or the absorber.
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** Need to determine material for center tube - Sasha
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* the IG110 Rohacell appears to be radiation hard (enough) and stiff enough. The density of 110 Kg/cubic meter should have a low impact on the physics.
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*** consider magnetic properties, thermal conductivity, strength, stiffness
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* The crystals should be moved back 2.5 cm (to 12.5 cm from US face)to be centered on the lead glass
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** Need to determine the maximum hole size allowable (assume steel initially) - Tim
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* We discussed the crystal modules and the mag shielding. We need to make the steel shield 6mm longer (if 2mm cookie used) to fit properly. We want to look at using silicone cookies instead of optical grease. Josh also would like to test this joint as well as the soldering of the brass straps to eliminate heat stress and failures.
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** Need to move the upstream end flush with US side of acrylic sheet - Keith
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* We decided we should use aluminum shims for the stacking of the blocks.
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** Need to decide on size of hole (2x2 crystals now) - Sasha
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* Discussed cooling system using copper tubing brazed to the aluminum blocks vs. holes through the aluminum blocks with pipe thread connections. We will have to look at the heat transfer characteristics and the pros and cons of each including fabrication, installation and repairs. It was pointed out that the BCAL has 192 pipe thread fittings that have not leaked to date.
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* Discussed Monitoring system
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* It was decided that the acryllic sheet monitoring system should be sufficient for the crystals.
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** Use 1/2" acrylic sheet same as FCAL
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** Discussed possibility of pre-assembling the acrylic, fibers and rohacell
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** Determine diameter of fibers - Sasha
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** Layout fibers coming through rohacell and cut angles on acrylic - Keith/Tim
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** Add fibers to inner hole edge
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** Fabricate a test piece - Tim/Keith/Josh
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* Discussed feedthru panels attached to cable support chains
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** Cables are stiff, ok to attach panels to cables with hinge
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** Use ComCal feedthu sizing to develop panels - Keith
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** Cables should be strain relived to chains
 +
* Discussed cooling system
 +
** Concept to glue copper tubes to aluminum blocks with thermally conductive epoxy accepted
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** Concept to clamp cooling plates to inner support tube accepted
 +
** Assuming 2.1KW total heat load, we would need 2 of the chillers used for BCAL.
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** Continue with connections and manifold layou - Keith/Tim
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* Discussed Brazing of PMT module straps and new mag field tests
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** Josh has successfully brazed and cleaned (warm water) an assembly and is testing
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** Test with 2mm cookie to ensure enough pressure can be maintained for good transmission - Josh
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** Sasha wishes to assemble a new 9 module array for magnetic field testing
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*** 18mm diameter light guides are needed - Tim
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*** 6mm longer with 50 micron larger ID mag shield steel needed - Tim
 +
*** additional mu metal shields needed (same as previous - 350 microns) - Tim
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*** Have steel shields annealed - Tim
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* Discussed test fixutre for PMTs in beam
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** Need to fabricate steel case - Tim
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** need to fabricate support structure - Tim
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** Need to fabricate feedthru panel - Josh/Tim
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** need to fabricated aluminum base plate - Josh/Tim
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**
  
 
== Action items ==
 
== Action items ==
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* Continue with 40x40 crystal design and 19 lead glass blocks surrounding them. Move the crystals down stream 2.5cm. (Keith)
 
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* Develop cooling design using those similar to BCAL. Keith to get with Josh Foyles to discuss pros and cons of each.
 
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* Develop monitoring system layout (Keith/Tim)
 
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* Go into the FCAL dark room to see layout and discuss cabling design for crystals (All)
 
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* Perform heat load calculations to define best cooling system (Tim)
 
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* Layout cabling system concept in 3D (Keith)
 
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* Cut down long steel shield for Josh to perform strap/cookie tests (Tim)
 
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* Get cookie samples for Josh to use (Tim)
 
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* Determine tungsten absorber coverage (Sasha)
 
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* Work on brass strap soldering techniques and cookie transmission tests (Josh)
 
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* Invite Fernando to next meeting (Tim)
 

Latest revision as of 10:31, 16 September 2019

Meeting Time and Place

Monday Sept 9 2pm At Jefferson Lab, room TED 2504

  • Present - Sasha Somov, Josh Crafts, Vlad, Eugene, Stephanie, Keith Harding, Tim

Agenda

  • Discuss 40x40 crystal assembly with 19 Lead glass modules around
    • Crystals move to 12.5 cm from US face of lead glass
    • 40x40 crystal matrix starts with shim to be able to go to 32x32 fairly easy.
    • Decision to pre-measure stacks of crystals and the existing FCAL to determine bottom row offsets
  • Discuss installing Rohacel US of crystals to fill hole and support the lead glass blocks
  • Discuss Tungsten absorber
    • Cover 1.5 crystals ok?
    • Rohacell supported
  • Monitoring System
    • Use Acrylic sheet, how thick?
    • How to attach fibers?
  • Cooling of blocks - 2.1 KW needed
    • 2 Chillers like those used for BCAL ($16K ea)
    • 4 water to air Heat exchangers around crystal area
    • 9 parallel circuits for each chiller
    • potted copper tube into aluminum blocks
    • Cooling of inner tube - removeable plate
  • electronics patch panels DS of crystal pmts
  • Brass strap soldering progress

Minutes and Action Items

  • Discussed the center support tube
    • Need to determine material for center tube - Sasha
      • consider magnetic properties, thermal conductivity, strength, stiffness
    • Need to determine the maximum hole size allowable (assume steel initially) - Tim
    • Need to move the upstream end flush with US side of acrylic sheet - Keith
    • Need to decide on size of hole (2x2 crystals now) - Sasha
  • Discussed Monitoring system
    • Use 1/2" acrylic sheet same as FCAL
    • Discussed possibility of pre-assembling the acrylic, fibers and rohacell
    • Determine diameter of fibers - Sasha
    • Layout fibers coming through rohacell and cut angles on acrylic - Keith/Tim
    • Add fibers to inner hole edge
    • Fabricate a test piece - Tim/Keith/Josh
  • Discussed feedthru panels attached to cable support chains
    • Cables are stiff, ok to attach panels to cables with hinge
    • Use ComCal feedthu sizing to develop panels - Keith
    • Cables should be strain relived to chains
  • Discussed cooling system
    • Concept to glue copper tubes to aluminum blocks with thermally conductive epoxy accepted
    • Concept to clamp cooling plates to inner support tube accepted
    • Assuming 2.1KW total heat load, we would need 2 of the chillers used for BCAL.
    • Continue with connections and manifold layou - Keith/Tim
  • Discussed Brazing of PMT module straps and new mag field tests
    • Josh has successfully brazed and cleaned (warm water) an assembly and is testing
    • Test with 2mm cookie to ensure enough pressure can be maintained for good transmission - Josh
    • Sasha wishes to assemble a new 9 module array for magnetic field testing
      • 18mm diameter light guides are needed - Tim
      • 6mm longer with 50 micron larger ID mag shield steel needed - Tim
      • additional mu metal shields needed (same as previous - 350 microns) - Tim
      • Have steel shields annealed - Tim
  • Discussed test fixutre for PMTs in beam
    • Need to fabricate steel case - Tim
    • need to fabricate support structure - Tim
    • Need to fabricate feedthru panel - Josh/Tim
    • need to fabricated aluminum base plate - Josh/Tim

Action items

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