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== Meeting Time and Place ==
 
== Meeting Time and Place ==
Thursday June 10, 2021, 1pm
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Thursday June 24, 2021, 1pm
 
Bluejeans https://bluejeans.com/465620466
 
Bluejeans https://bluejeans.com/465620466
  
* Present -  Eugene Chudakov, Hovanes Egiyan, Moskov Amaryan, Stephanie Worthington, Keith Harding, Igor Strakovsky, Desiree Ahrens, Tim Whitlatch, Mark Stevens
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* Present -  Hovanes Egiyan, Moskov Amaryan, Stephanie Worthington, Keith Harding, Igor Strakovsky, Tim Whitlatch, Mark Stevens
  
 
== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
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** 5 mm gap between Be and tungsten
 
** 5 mm gap between Be and tungsten
 
** 5 cm tube downstream since that is the clearance in sweep magnet
 
** 5 cm tube downstream since that is the clearance in sweep magnet
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** Be target holder
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** lead geometry
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** Borated Poly geometry
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* Heat absorbed by Be and Tungsten
 
* Requirements:
 
* Requirements:
** Collimator cave
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** Cool tungsten plug to below temperature that affects lead
  
 
== Minutes and Action Items ==
 
== Minutes and Action Items ==
* Everyone introduced themselves.
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* We went through the marked up sketch of overall dimensions and everyone was ok with it.
*: Igor and and Eugene briefly presented the problem of what needs to be done for the kaon production target (KPT).  
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* Discussed beam size and beam pipe size. 5cm beam pipe ok to just past the sweep magnet . Need to check if the PS is 6cm. Will use 6 cm after the sweep.
* Igor went through his slides to describe the KPT conceptual design.  
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* Moskov said the target is 6 cm so we do not need to be bigger than that.
* Eugene had a few questions and comments.  
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* Keith presented the 3D model
*# It would be helpful to have a single document, relatively brief, showing all the relevant for designers KPT dimensions.  
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** 6" (15 cm) square steel tube ok upstream of tungsten. This will make it easier to stack lead
*#: It was agreed that Tim, Stephanie and Keith will draw their own sketch based on Igor's presentations, and will request the missing numbers.
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** 5mm gap between beryllium and tungsten ok
*# Would it be helpful to have a beam pipe (steel) before the tungsten plug?
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** Square tungsten to match steel tube ok (6"), Igor will do new calculation when design finalized
*#: This has not been considered yet.
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** Square steel tube downstream of tungsten plug ok. Tentatively 5 cm, may be bigger if cooling tubes are needed for tungsten
*# How do we hold the beryllium target in front of the tungsten plug?
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** some type of cradle support for the beryllium ok.
*#* Attaching it to the plug means that it will get heated by the plug.
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** Vacuum tube (5 cm) to start right after target assy - is kapton window ok or is aluminum needed?
*#* One may consider a small gap between the target and W-plug and relay on the air convection.  
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** Verify weight of lead, appears to be 18 tons ([https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/images/6/6d/TargetNEW.xlsx Igor's initial estimation was 12.5 t ])
*#* Either way, one needs to estimate the temperature of the beryllium.
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** Location of Be within several mm ok
*#* Igor would like to know what options there are for which one may perform simulations.
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** Assembly will be on rollers and move out of beamline manually
*# Eugene would like the KLF collaboration to produce a heat depositions profile versus z for the lead, beryllium and the tungsten plug.
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** Hovanes asked if it would be easier to fabricate beryllium if square. This needs to be looked at.
*#* Moskov agreed.
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* Energy absorption in beryllium and tungsten not yet calculated
*#* Currently Igor's program does not do that. 
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* Igor requests 16.3 g/cc for tungsten (the source is Rolf, one can check it with Bogdan)
* Hovanes asked Tim if it would be easier to have a rectangular design for the KPT shielding rather than a barrel shape.  
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*: Eugene thinks it can be some kind of combination to simplify the mechanical design and to reduce the amount of lead used.
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*: Tim has been thinking about it, but so far has no preference.  
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* We agreed to meet every two weeks at the same time, until further notice.
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=== Action Items ===
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== Action Items ==
# Go over the existing sketch and identify missing dimensions (designers and Igor).
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* Continue developing 3D model - Keith
# Determine the heat deposition profile (KLF).
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* Find out fabrication technique for Beryllium and if square will be easier (Tim)
# Options for holding the Be target in place. (designers)
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* Perform energy absorption calculations - Igor
# Shape of the KPT shielding: barrel vs rectangular. (designers)
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* Verify Pair spec magnet beampipe size (Tim)  
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* Get quotes on lead bricks (Stephanie)
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* Verify weight of lead (Keith)
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* Start looking at cooling methods for tungsten (Stephanie, Keith, Tim)

Latest revision as of 20:13, 24 June 2021

Meeting Time and Place

Thursday June 24, 2021, 1pm Bluejeans https://bluejeans.com/465620466

  • Present - Hovanes Egiyan, Moskov Amaryan, Stephanie Worthington, Keith Harding, Igor Strakovsky, Tim Whitlatch, Mark Stevens

Agenda

Minutes and Action Items

  • We went through the marked up sketch of overall dimensions and everyone was ok with it.
  • Discussed beam size and beam pipe size. 5cm beam pipe ok to just past the sweep magnet . Need to check if the PS is 6cm. Will use 6 cm after the sweep.
  • Moskov said the target is 6 cm so we do not need to be bigger than that.
  • Keith presented the 3D model
    • 6" (15 cm) square steel tube ok upstream of tungsten. This will make it easier to stack lead
    • 5mm gap between beryllium and tungsten ok
    • Square tungsten to match steel tube ok (6"), Igor will do new calculation when design finalized
    • Square steel tube downstream of tungsten plug ok. Tentatively 5 cm, may be bigger if cooling tubes are needed for tungsten
    • some type of cradle support for the beryllium ok.
    • Vacuum tube (5 cm) to start right after target assy - is kapton window ok or is aluminum needed?
    • Verify weight of lead, appears to be 18 tons (Igor's initial estimation was 12.5 t )
    • Location of Be within several mm ok
    • Assembly will be on rollers and move out of beamline manually
    • Hovanes asked if it would be easier to fabricate beryllium if square. This needs to be looked at.
  • Energy absorption in beryllium and tungsten not yet calculated
  • Igor requests 16.3 g/cc for tungsten (the source is Rolf, one can check it with Bogdan)

Action Items

  • Continue developing 3D model - Keith
  • Find out fabrication technique for Beryllium and if square will be easier (Tim)
  • Perform energy absorption calculations - Igor
  • Verify Pair spec magnet beampipe size (Tim)
  • Get quotes on lead bricks (Stephanie)
  • Verify weight of lead (Keith)
  • Start looking at cooling methods for tungsten (Stephanie, Keith, Tim)