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= Connection =
 
= Connection =
  
# [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/Connect_to_Bluejeans_Meetings Instructions for Bluejeans meeting connection]
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# [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/Connect_to_Bluejeans_Meetings Instructions for Bluejeans meeting connection]
 
# FDC meeting ID: 290664653
 
# FDC meeting ID: 290664653
 
# To join via a Web Browser, go to the page [https://bluejeans.com/290664653] https://bluejeans.com/290664653.
 
# To join via a Web Browser, go to the page [https://bluejeans.com/290664653] https://bluejeans.com/290664653.
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= Agenda =
 
= Agenda =
  
# Collaboration meeting [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/GlueX-Collaboration-Feb-2015 agenda]
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# Collaboration meeting [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/GlueX-Collaboration-Feb-2015 agenda]
 
# Gas puzzle  
 
# Gas puzzle  
 
#* effects of the alcohol [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/FTDvdrif.GIF FTD drift velocity],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/FTD_arprop.pdf FTD no alcohol],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/FTD_arpropet.pdf FTD with alcohol], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/cdc_arco2prop.pdf CDC time-to-distance with alcohol], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/cdcampl.pdf CDC amplitudes with/without alcohol], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/fdc_arco2prop.pdf FDC with alcohol]  
 
#* effects of the alcohol [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/FTDvdrif.GIF FTD drift velocity],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/FTD_arprop.pdf FTD no alcohol],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/FTD_arpropet.pdf FTD with alcohol], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/cdc_arco2prop.pdf CDC time-to-distance with alcohol], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/cdcampl.pdf CDC amplitudes with/without alcohol], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/fdc_arco2prop.pdf FDC with alcohol]  
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# Engineering (Dave)  
 
# Engineering (Dave)  
 
# Other
 
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== Gas puzzle ==
 
== Gas puzzle ==
  
- Lubomir investigated the effects of the alcohol in the gas using Garfield. Experimental results (first plot) from the FTD detector at HERA show increase of the drift velocity with the increase of the ethanol in their Ar/propane mixture. Garfield simulations (next two plots) describe this results well enough. Contrary, adding 1-propanol in our gas mixtures of Ar/CO2 makes the gas slower, and surprisingly increases the gain significantly - 70% if adding just 1% (absolute) alcohol. Thus, a mixture of 54/45/1 Ar/CO2/propanol explains (next two plots) both, the CDC time-to-distance and the increase by a factor of ~4 of the gain compared to the 50/50 mixture.  
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- Lubomir investigated the effects of the alcohol in the gas using Garfield. Experimental results (first plot) from the FTD detector at HERA show increase of the drift velocity with the increase of the ethanol in their Ar/propane mixture. Garfield simulations (next two plots) describe this results well enough. Contrary, adding 1-propanol in our gas mixtures of Ar/CO2 makes the gas slower, and surprisingly increases the gain significantly - 70% if adding just 1% (absolute) alcohol. Thus, a mixture of 54/45/1 Ar/CO2/propanol explains (next two plots) both, the CDC time-to-distance and the increase by a factor of ~4 of the gain compared to the 50/50 mixture. It's difficult to estimate the propanol percentage during the last run. If using the vapor pressures and assuming equilibrium, it must be 0.2-0.5% ranging due to the temperature and pressure variations in the alcohol bubbler. If roughly estimate the alcohol consumptions it must be closer to 1%.
  
== CDC update ==
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- At least the CO2 content will be known soon. We have received a CO2 sensor (0-100% range) that is based on UV light absorption by the CO2 molecule. Needs calibration, will use a certified Ar/CO2 bottle ~40/60, and pure CO2.
  
- Mike presented a report linked above: he and Simon found a parameter in the time-based track reconstruction that was not set correctly. After fixing this the efficiency is much higher (in the >90s% region). Great result! The residuals vs drift time has an offset ~300microns at >100ns which is interpreted as an indication for a different (faster) gas mixture. Note: the results presented are with magnetic field and the tracking was done with time-to-distance as simulated with Garfield for that field. Next step: to extract the time-to-distance from the data. Mike also presented the tool he made for reading/viewing one crate of f125s using pulser.
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- Naomi showed her latest results (linked above) from CMU using the prototype. She used 50/50 55/45 and 60/40 Ar/CO2 gas mixtures. There's an big increase in the gain between 55/45 and 60/40 but not that much between 50/50 and 55/45, If compared with the JLab results with no filed the mixture must be between 55/45 and 60/40 if there's no alcohol. Also the JLab results correspond to tracks from cosmics. Naomi will do also measurements with the JLab electronics.
 
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- CDC efficiency to be discussed on the next meeting.  
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== FDC update ==
 
== FDC update ==
  
- Vlad used Mike's tool to test the bad FDC channels (see logbook entry). Out of 8 channels, 7 could not see the pulser signal (applied at the input of the pre-amp), i.e. having issues with the pre-amp, cable, connector or the fADC. Chris and Nick will check the 3M connectors for these channels.
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- Vlad showed some studies of the systematics of the gain calibration procedure, comparing results using all the hits, and only those that are part of reconstructed tracks for the fourth package. The are statistically very similar. The channels with correction coefficients >1 (assumed to be "bad") show some differences (up to 50%) when using the two methods.
 
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- From the alcohol consumption (~0.4l/30days for FDC and ~0.6l/30days for the CDC according to Scot) Lubomir estimated ~0.8% alcohol in the FDC and ~0.4% for the CDC, very crude estimate!!! From the vapor pressure estimations we get the same order of 0.5-1% alcohol. Since the pressure in the alcohol bubbler varies between 7-12psi the alcohol percentage would vary too. As a quick fix we will make the pressure range smaller.
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- Lubomir simulated with Garfield the effect of adding 1% propanol to the standard gas of 40/60 Ar/CO2. From the attached plots one can see ~6% decrease in the drift velocity, i.e. opposite to the effect observed in the data. If this is true we would expect much bigger deviation from the standard 40/60 Ar/CO2 mixture than what was estimated from the drift velocity to be 46/54 (see January 8 meeting), i.e. should be about 50/50! We are looking now for a way to measure the gas percentages in the mixture.
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== Electronics ==
 
== Electronics ==
  
- Nick and Chris started modifying the HVBs: adding capacitors, milling retainers. Some dust (like rust) and fibers were found on the caps of the top HVBs - picture linked above.
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- All CDC HVBs will be installed by Monday and the-routing of the HV cables will be finished in the first week of February. Fernando: some of the pins of the pre-amp connector on the HVbs were bent; brackets are installed that prevent removing the pre-amps. To replace it you need to disconnect the whole HVB.  
  
- Cody: 24 (out 25) new fADCs were tested and only two failed - much better than with the previous production. Cody replaced 10 fADC125 (see logbook entry) following the list of bad channels (with missing bits) given to him by Naomi and Vlad. Will try to fix the bad channels if possible or ship them for repair.   
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- Cody has made changes in the firmware related to the block transfer (larger FIFO in the front-end chip) and trigger rate issues. Will test all these changes at once.   
  
 
== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
- Dave presented his plan for re-using an old AC power reset module (from Hall B) for shutting down the chiller. It has an AC contactor controlled by the PLC using same logic as for the MPOD interlock. (presentation attached).
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- Dave has prepared the box for the FDC chiller shut off to be connected when the chiller is back. The PLC software is ready, as well.  
 
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- The FDC chiller has been finally shipped for repair.
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- Dave is going to install a thermo-couple in the alcohol refrigerator, connected to the PLC for monitoring the temperature.

Latest revision as of 17:22, 31 March 2015

January 22, 2015 FDC+CDC meeting

Connection

  1. Instructions for Bluejeans meeting connection
  2. FDC meeting ID: 290664653
  3. To join via a Web Browser, go to the page [1] https://bluejeans.com/290664653.

Agenda

  1. Collaboration meeting agenda
  2. Gas puzzle
  3. CDC update (Mike)
  4. FDC update
    • Gain calibration (Vlad)
  5. Electronics (Fernando, Cody)
    • HVB refurbishment (Nick, Chris)
  6. Engineering (Dave)
  7. Other

Minutes

Participants: Naomi (CMU), Fernando, Eugene, Beni, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Mike, Cody, Vlad, Sergey, and Lubomir (JLab).

Collaboration meeting agenda

- In addition to the allocated talks, Vlad needs 10 min for "FDC gain calibration". Eugene: this is a tracking session and should be devoted to tracking and calibrations, f125 stuff can go to the electronics, but there's no electronics sessions? To be discussed next time again.

Gas puzzle

- Lubomir investigated the effects of the alcohol in the gas using Garfield. Experimental results (first plot) from the FTD detector at HERA show increase of the drift velocity with the increase of the ethanol in their Ar/propane mixture. Garfield simulations (next two plots) describe this results well enough. Contrary, adding 1-propanol in our gas mixtures of Ar/CO2 makes the gas slower, and surprisingly increases the gain significantly - 70% if adding just 1% (absolute) alcohol. Thus, a mixture of 54/45/1 Ar/CO2/propanol explains (next two plots) both, the CDC time-to-distance and the increase by a factor of ~4 of the gain compared to the 50/50 mixture. It's difficult to estimate the propanol percentage during the last run. If using the vapor pressures and assuming equilibrium, it must be 0.2-0.5% ranging due to the temperature and pressure variations in the alcohol bubbler. If roughly estimate the alcohol consumptions it must be closer to 1%.

- At least the CO2 content will be known soon. We have received a CO2 sensor (0-100% range) that is based on UV light absorption by the CO2 molecule. Needs calibration, will use a certified Ar/CO2 bottle ~40/60, and pure CO2.

- Naomi showed her latest results (linked above) from CMU using the prototype. She used 50/50 55/45 and 60/40 Ar/CO2 gas mixtures. There's an big increase in the gain between 55/45 and 60/40 but not that much between 50/50 and 55/45, If compared with the JLab results with no filed the mixture must be between 55/45 and 60/40 if there's no alcohol. Also the JLab results correspond to tracks from cosmics. Naomi will do also measurements with the JLab electronics.

FDC update

- Vlad showed some studies of the systematics of the gain calibration procedure, comparing results using all the hits, and only those that are part of reconstructed tracks for the fourth package. The are statistically very similar. The channels with correction coefficients >1 (assumed to be "bad") show some differences (up to 50%) when using the two methods.

Electronics

- All CDC HVBs will be installed by Monday and the-routing of the HV cables will be finished in the first week of February. Fernando: some of the pins of the pre-amp connector on the HVbs were bent; brackets are installed that prevent removing the pre-amps. To replace it you need to disconnect the whole HVB.

- Cody has made changes in the firmware related to the block transfer (larger FIFO in the front-end chip) and trigger rate issues. Will test all these changes at once.

Engineering

- Dave has prepared the box for the FDC chiller shut off to be connected when the chiller is back. The PLC software is ready, as well.

- Dave is going to install a thermo-couple in the alcohol refrigerator, connected to the PLC for monitoring the temperature.