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# DAQ  (Beni)
 
# DAQ  (Beni)
 
# CDC status (Mike, Beni)
 
# CDC status (Mike, Beni)
#* [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/CDC/noise noise studies]
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#* noise studies [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/CDC/braid1.jpg braid],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/CDC/HVC6onOnly_nogrounding.png scope no ground],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/CDC/HVC6onOnly_withgrounding.png scope with ground]  
 
# FDC status (Lubomir)
 
# FDC status (Lubomir)
 
# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
 
# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
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#* Chiller
 
#* Chiller
 
#* Cathode scan [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/calibration/pitch_5pos.pdf] (Luke)
 
#* Cathode scan [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/calibration/pitch_5pos.pdf] (Luke)
# Commissioning [https://hdops.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/Hall_D_Commissioning Wiki Page], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/commissioning/ComPlan.pdf FDC commissioning plan] (all)
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# Commissioning [https://halldweb.jlab.org/hdops/wiki/index.php/Hall_D_Commissioning Wiki Page], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/commissioning/ComPlan.pdf FDC commissioning plan] (all)
 
# Other
 
# Other
  
[https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/Connect_to_Bluejeans_Meetings Instructions for Bluejeans meeting connection]
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[https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/Connect_to_Bluejeans_Meetings Instructions for Bluejeans meeting connection]
  
 
FDC meeting ID: 290664653
 
FDC meeting ID: 290664653
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Participants: Curtis, Naomi(CMU), Sean (NU), Bill, Luke, Mike, Chris, Simon, Beni, Fernando and Lubomir (JLab).
 
Participants: Curtis, Naomi(CMU), Sean (NU), Bill, Luke, Mike, Chris, Simon, Beni, Fernando and Lubomir (JLab).
 
  
 
== CDC update ==
 
== CDC update ==
  
- Beni installed a wide grounding braid connecting in a chain all HV boards in one sector (#4)
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- Beni installed a wide grounding braid (first picture above) connecting in a chain all HV boards in one sector (#4). The pictures above demonstrate '''significant improvement in the noise suppression'''. The 200kHz noise from the HV power supply is gone and the random noise is down by >25%. Only this one HV channel was turned on.
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- Fernando contacted CAEN concerning the 200kHz noise coming from 1550 and interestingly even more from 1535 module. The noise goes through the HV return lines connected to the aluminum ring at the front of the CDC and the ground of the ring needs to be improved first. Further we should think of a better, non-destructive way (4 pre-amp cards were somewhat damaged) of installing the additional ground on the cards.
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- It's not clear exactly how the grounding helped, but it worked only after connecting all of the cards from this sector. It might be the stand-offs that connect the cards to ground have some resistance? (Bill). The HVBs have LV vias on the back side, so one should find a better place for connection, but that's possible (Fernando).
  
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== DAQ ==
 
== DAQ ==
  
- Beni: the synchronized run (CDC +BCAL) didn't work over the weekend. Something is wrong with the data, as if the the signals were not in the time window. Still, the DAQ was running over the weekend without crushing. Will try it again this weekend.
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- Beni: problems running DAQ last night: one of the TI was replaced and had older firmware version. After the meeting Beni found the trigger didn't work due to the magnetic field effect (the magnet is set now to 800A!) on the trigger PMTs: need to be shielded!
  
 
== FDC update ==
 
== FDC update ==
  
- Lubomir was improving the tracking: significant advantage if one uses the timing of each ionization cluster (the positions of the maximums in the fADC data). The time of each cluster should be the same for the upper, down strips and the wires. This allows to reconstruct multiple hits (ionization clusters) on the same wire or strip and separate tracks very close to each other, as demonstrated on the attached plot (shown are avalanche positions, no drift time correction yet).
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- Without the horizontal track trigger, the quality of the data is poor: mostly showers and mostly in the first package. To separate hits from noise Lubomir is improving the avalanche finding algorithm using the multi-hit feature of the TDCs and the timing from the fADCs. Last week Cody replaced 4 fADC125 modules due to different issues. In the last short run (the only so far after the FDC chiller was fixed) only one of the new modules works fine, the other three have problems.
  
 
== Electronics ==
 
== Electronics ==
  
- Casey installed almost all CDC retainers (the retainer keeps the connector to the pre-amp in place).  
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- Fernando: Cody is releasing a new version of the fADC125 firmware with the pulser, masking and playback features. The implementation of the fADC250 algorithms will be ready by the end of August, then in September Cody and Bryan will start testing it.
 
   
 
   
 
== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
- Bill: the compressor will come today and will be replaced tomorrow. The chiller failed last Saturday due to compressor overheating, on Monday technicians from facilities found that the compressor has to be replaced. Bill: the most important question is why it failed and do we need spare chiller or parts for the long run. Eugene: during runs we don't want to wait a week for the chiller to be repaired. Let's first see if this failure was an exception, but in any case having a spare compressor (~$1k) will not be a problem.  
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- Bill: the compressor was replaced last Friday but the water flow trough the chiller is very low: the thermostatic valve doesn't open completely. Talking to the company, the most likely reason for that is the low temperature of the chill water of 7-8C. According to their specifications should be above 10C, but before they said it should work also with 8C. Bill's plan is to use an available heat exchanger (from the target) and to warm the input water using the heat of the output water.  
  
- Bill: the water flow/quality is a suspect; rust found in the water filter. Therefore a flow meter for the chilled water was installed and Dave should be able to read it. According to Tom, we are going to change the water filters every month. Eugene: we may need better (centralized) filtering system. Bill asked Carroll Jones if the water quality can be improved.
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- Bill tested the hard-piping for the chiller that was installed recently (bypassed now). It has water filter for the Fluorinert.
  
- Luke did already measurements in three positions and is working now on the fourth. The averaged (over 8 strips) pitch values as function of their positions are shown on the 2D plot. They vary between 5.009 and 5.014 mm (color coded). Eugene: to describe this with a model there are central regions for each foil you can consider flat, and dips in between where the Kapton tape is glued.
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- Luke showed results (linked above) with already 5 measurements across the strips. One sees an irregularity: a big peak and right next to it a dip, but this is exactly at the place where the cathode was hit when it was stored in the counting house. Measurements at the other side of the cathode is not possible (microscope doesn't reach it), unless we rotate the cathode by 180deg. Luke is analyzing now the MCC data.
  
== Commissioning ==
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== Commissioning ==
  
- The estimates are that at 10^-4 R.L. radiator and 50nA electron beam we will have 180Hz charged particle from 2mm plastic target. The fraction that goes on the FDC has to be simulated, but if we assume 20Hz charged particles on the FDC, we will need about 2 beam-on-target days to have ~3M events. Based on the experience with the package 3 this will be enough for the alignment in one configuration, so in total 4 days (magnet on/off). The target has to be placed as far as possible which is at ~4m upstream from the face of the CDC, at the exit of the vacuum pipe there.  
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- We discussed briefly what is the trigger we want to use with the target placed ~4m upstream. In this case the BCAL geometrical acceptance is reduced significantly: ~7-14deg compared to >10deg for the nominal target position. Therefore, including the BCAL in the trigger will select mostly events originating from the nominal target. Curtis: the pions are mostly in the forward direction and this may not be an issue. In any case we need simulations and Simon already started doing them.  
  
- Eugene: be aware that for the commission we will have ~3m air in front of the solid target (in nominal position) which is ~0.8% R.L. while the 2mm target is ~0.25%. We may decide use carbon or Al target instead of plastic. Simon: for the CDC we will use the target at nominal position. It should not be a problem  to have several targets at the same time.
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-Curtis: According to Eugene, there will probably be minimal choice in the trigger. At best, we will be able
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to control the relative fraction of BCAL and FCAl energy.
  
- It is critical to have the sparsification firmware ready by the middle of September so that  Beni has time to  implement it by the beginning of October for the commissioning run. If the whole firmware is not ready we need at least the "pulse mode" where all the samples are read out, but only for channels with signals above a threshold. In this case we need to think about efficient trigger, like FCAL and TOF coincidence.
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- Everybody agrees we better align the chambers without any magnetic field. If the trigger rate is too high an option will be to mask the inner FCAL blocks.
  
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- Bill proposed to survey the FDC (the 16 reflectors visible from downstream) next week when the magnet will be set to 1200A.

Latest revision as of 05:07, 1 April 2015

August 14, 2014 FDC+CDC meeting

Agenda

  1. DAQ (Beni)
  2. CDC status (Mike, Beni)
  3. FDC status (Lubomir)
  4. Electronics (Chris, Nick)
  5. Engineering (Bill)
    • Chiller
    • Cathode scan [1] (Luke)
  6. Commissioning Wiki Page, FDC commissioning plan (all)
  7. Other

Instructions for Bluejeans meeting connection

FDC meeting ID: 290664653

Minutes

Participants: Curtis, Naomi(CMU), Sean (NU), Bill, Luke, Mike, Chris, Simon, Beni, Fernando and Lubomir (JLab).

CDC update

- Beni installed a wide grounding braid (first picture above) connecting in a chain all HV boards in one sector (#4). The pictures above demonstrate significant improvement in the noise suppression. The 200kHz noise from the HV power supply is gone and the random noise is down by >25%. Only this one HV channel was turned on.

- Fernando contacted CAEN concerning the 200kHz noise coming from 1550 and interestingly even more from 1535 module. The noise goes through the HV return lines connected to the aluminum ring at the front of the CDC and the ground of the ring needs to be improved first. Further we should think of a better, non-destructive way (4 pre-amp cards were somewhat damaged) of installing the additional ground on the cards.

- It's not clear exactly how the grounding helped, but it worked only after connecting all of the cards from this sector. It might be the stand-offs that connect the cards to ground have some resistance? (Bill). The HVBs have LV vias on the back side, so one should find a better place for connection, but that's possible (Fernando).

DAQ

- Beni: problems running DAQ last night: one of the TI was replaced and had older firmware version. After the meeting Beni found the trigger didn't work due to the magnetic field effect (the magnet is set now to 800A!) on the trigger PMTs: need to be shielded!

FDC update

- Without the horizontal track trigger, the quality of the data is poor: mostly showers and mostly in the first package. To separate hits from noise Lubomir is improving the avalanche finding algorithm using the multi-hit feature of the TDCs and the timing from the fADCs. Last week Cody replaced 4 fADC125 modules due to different issues. In the last short run (the only so far after the FDC chiller was fixed) only one of the new modules works fine, the other three have problems.

Electronics

- Fernando: Cody is releasing a new version of the fADC125 firmware with the pulser, masking and playback features. The implementation of the fADC250 algorithms will be ready by the end of August, then in September Cody and Bryan will start testing it.

Engineering

- Bill: the compressor was replaced last Friday but the water flow trough the chiller is very low: the thermostatic valve doesn't open completely. Talking to the company, the most likely reason for that is the low temperature of the chill water of 7-8C. According to their specifications should be above 10C, but before they said it should work also with 8C. Bill's plan is to use an available heat exchanger (from the target) and to warm the input water using the heat of the output water.

- Bill tested the hard-piping for the chiller that was installed recently (bypassed now). It has water filter for the Fluorinert.

- Luke showed results (linked above) with already 5 measurements across the strips. One sees an irregularity: a big peak and right next to it a dip, but this is exactly at the place where the cathode was hit when it was stored in the counting house. Measurements at the other side of the cathode is not possible (microscope doesn't reach it), unless we rotate the cathode by 180deg. Luke is analyzing now the MCC data.

Commissioning

- We discussed briefly what is the trigger we want to use with the target placed ~4m upstream. In this case the BCAL geometrical acceptance is reduced significantly: ~7-14deg compared to >10deg for the nominal target position. Therefore, including the BCAL in the trigger will select mostly events originating from the nominal target. Curtis: the pions are mostly in the forward direction and this may not be an issue. In any case we need simulations and Simon already started doing them.

-Curtis: According to Eugene, there will probably be minimal choice in the trigger. At best, we will be able to control the relative fraction of BCAL and FCAl energy.

- Everybody agrees we better align the chambers without any magnetic field. If the trigger rate is too high an option will be to mask the inner FCAL blocks.

- Bill proposed to survey the FDC (the 16 reflectors visible from downstream) next week when the magnet will be set to 1200A.