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##* Prepare executive summary in the next few days so that Eugene can talk to Volker
 
##* Prepare executive summary in the next few days so that Eugene can talk to Volker
 
##* DRAFT Proposal will follow later this week for feedback
 
##* DRAFT Proposal will follow later this week for feedback
 +
# Update from Athens
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## Submitted designs for all boards and submitted to JLab
 +
##* Fernando will review and provide feedback
 +
## Started to build first article
 +
##* Boards should be received next week and can be populated
 +
##* If possible the boards will be tested in Hall B with mini-Bcal
 
# Update from USM
 
# Update from USM
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/images/4/41/RunManager_report_5.pdf Run manager report]
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/images/4/41/RunManager_report_5.pdf Run manager report]
 +
##* Testing has started in Stage 2 after some faulty starts and minor repairs of setup
 +
##* So far measured six JLab SiPMs and more from Hamamatsu
 +
##* Stage 3 refurbished to start testing
 +
##* Amps with low gain replaced
 +
##* Presently testing more JLab MPPCs
 +
##* Added thermal pad (1 mm 2000S40) for half the sensors to check systematics
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/images/c/c2/Station2.pdf Station 2 analysis (Sergey)]
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/images/c/c2/Station2.pdf Station 2 analysis (Sergey)]
 +
##* Revision of all data
 +
##* Updated conversion factors based on photodiode data and spectral response
 +
##* USM results compare favorably with Musienko data from CMS
 +
##* Comparison of PDE, gain, DR and cross talk compares well with JLab data, although some systematic differences remain.
 +
##* All parameters measured at Vbr+0.9 V. [Yi: JLab used the Hamamatsu proposed operating voltage, which was measured to be about Vbr+0.95V].
 +
##* JLab gain about 5.5x10^5, USM gives about 5.0x10^5.
 +
##* JLab PDE about 20%, USM gives about 24%
 +
##* Sergey: Uniformity of PDE over the MPPC is very good
 +
##* Yi: Compared the two methods of extracting PDE: N0 in ped vs full fit. Differences due to method is less than 1%.
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/images/8/84/02_07_my_pres_Hall-D.pdf Station 3 analysis (Hayk)]
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/images/8/84/02_07_my_pres_Hall-D.pdf Station 3 analysis (Hayk)]
 +
##* New data shown. Data taken with <Npe>~2.5 compared to 1.5 for previous data.
 +
##* Still need to remeasure some amplifiers
 +
##* Fitting routine takes about 30 min/MPPC. Fast algorithm is about 6 times faster, but fitting will be used.
 +
## Based on today's presentation, Elton will send message to the listserver approving production testing at USM. Full approval of Stage 1 and 2. Conditional approval of Stage 3 based on USM verifying proper thermal contacts of MPPCs to cooling plate.
 
## [http://atlasusr.fis.utfsm.cl:8000/ USM Web Interface to DB]
 
## [http://atlasusr.fis.utfsm.cl:8000/ USM Web Interface to DB]
 
# Status of Testing at JLab
 
# Status of Testing at JLab
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/SiPM/ Hall-D ELOG]
 
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/SiPM/ Hall-D ELOG]
### [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/SiPM/24 Spectra with Chiller ON]
+
##* Preliminary data is now being taken. Chiller set to 10 deg C.
### [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/SiPM/26 Some photos]
+
##* Two preamp boards populated (8 channels)
 +
##* Problem with DC offset out of original board.
 +
##* Revised board replaced resistor with a capacitor to eliminate baseline. Data shown are for the board with the capacitor.
 +
##* Data shown for 200 ns gate. Signal to noise decreases as gate is increased.
 +
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/SiPM/24 Spectra with Chiller ON]
 +
## [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/SiPM/26 Some photos]
 
# Other
 
# Other

Revision as of 16:37, 7 February 2012

Teleconference Time: 11:00 a.m. EST

  • ESNET (Number is 8542553) and EVO session (GlueX Calorimetry meeting room)
  • Phone connection only upon request.
    • +1-866-740-1260 : US and Canada
    • +1-303-248-0285 : International
    • then use participant code: 3421244# (the # is needed when using the phone)
    • OR from www.readytalk.com type access code 3421244 into "join a meeting" without the # (you need java plugin)

Participant Direct Lines

  • JLab Phone: in CC F326 is 757-269-6337 (usual room)
  • JLab Phone in CC L207 is 757-269-7084
  • Phone in the Regina Videoconference Suite is 306-585-4204
  • Athens Phone: in Christina's office is 011-30-210-727-6947

Items for followup from previous meeting

  1. Jlab (Yi) and USM (Hayk) will make available raw spectra for fitting by other groups to check consistency.
    • Yi forwarded fits of USM data from Dec 5 to Zisis
    • See e-mail Jan 30

Presentations from recent meetings

Tentative Agenda

  1. Announcements
  2. Review of Action Items
  3. Calorimetry Talks at the Collaboration Meeting
    1. Friday Feb. 17, 13:30 Session IVa (120) --- Calorimetry - (Organizer: Zisis Papandreou ) - Chair
  4. Update from USM
    1. Run manager report
    2. Station 2 analysis (Sergey)
    3. Station 3 analysis (Hayk)
    4. USM Web Interface to DB
  5. Status of Testing at JLab
    1. Hall-D ELOG
      1. Spectra with Chiller ON
      2. Some photos
  6. BCAL Beam Test
  7. Other

Minutes

Attending: Elton, Eugene, John L., John C., Yi, Sasha, Beni (Jlab); Will, Hayk, Javiera, Orlando Soto (USM); Zisis, George, Andrei (UofR); Christina (Athens).

  1. Announcements
  2. Review of Action Items
  3. Calorimetry Talks at the Collaboration Meeting
    1. Friday Feb. 17, 13:30 Session IVa (120) --- Calorimetry - (Organizer: Zisis Papandreou ) - Chair
      • Four talks scheduled. Offline will be discussed how the information is presented on the SiPM
  4. BCAL Beam Test
    1. Electronics (Sasha)
      • On hand: 48 channels of FlashADCs (Need: 32 channels for miniBcal + trigger and spares)
      • On hand: 32 channels of F1 TDC (Need: 32 channels from Beni)
      • On hand: 16 channels of Discriminator (Need: 32 channels, need to secure one more)
      • On hand: NIM bin + logic available
      • Need: trigger scintillators
      • Need: additional VXS crates, etc unless we can share with Fcal
    2. Schedule (John)
      • Next week Fcal and Hall B will conduct a joint test to establish electron energies into detector
      • 1-2 Weeks electron beam test
      • 1-2 weeks 2 pass photon beam
      • Target change, mid March
      • 1-2 weeks 3 pass photon beam
      • Remainder of time 5 pass photon beam (April/May)
      • Fcal would like to accumulate data in alcove at three energies
      • Perform all Flash DAQ tests before moving down to Hall B floor
    3. Paperwork (Zisis)
      • Prepare executive summary in the next few days so that Eugene can talk to Volker
      • DRAFT Proposal will follow later this week for feedback
  5. Update from Athens
    1. Submitted designs for all boards and submitted to JLab
      • Fernando will review and provide feedback
    2. Started to build first article
      • Boards should be received next week and can be populated
      • If possible the boards will be tested in Hall B with mini-Bcal
  6. Update from USM
    1. Run manager report
      • Testing has started in Stage 2 after some faulty starts and minor repairs of setup
      • So far measured six JLab SiPMs and more from Hamamatsu
      • Stage 3 refurbished to start testing
      • Amps with low gain replaced
      • Presently testing more JLab MPPCs
      • Added thermal pad (1 mm 2000S40) for half the sensors to check systematics
    2. Station 2 analysis (Sergey)
      • Revision of all data
      • Updated conversion factors based on photodiode data and spectral response
      • USM results compare favorably with Musienko data from CMS
      • Comparison of PDE, gain, DR and cross talk compares well with JLab data, although some systematic differences remain.
      • All parameters measured at Vbr+0.9 V. [Yi: JLab used the Hamamatsu proposed operating voltage, which was measured to be about Vbr+0.95V].
      • JLab gain about 5.5x10^5, USM gives about 5.0x10^5.
      • JLab PDE about 20%, USM gives about 24%
      • Sergey: Uniformity of PDE over the MPPC is very good
      • Yi: Compared the two methods of extracting PDE: N0 in ped vs full fit. Differences due to method is less than 1%.
    3. Station 3 analysis (Hayk)
      • New data shown. Data taken with <Npe>~2.5 compared to 1.5 for previous data.
      • Still need to remeasure some amplifiers
      • Fitting routine takes about 30 min/MPPC. Fast algorithm is about 6 times faster, but fitting will be used.
    4. Based on today's presentation, Elton will send message to the listserver approving production testing at USM. Full approval of Stage 1 and 2. Conditional approval of Stage 3 based on USM verifying proper thermal contacts of MPPCs to cooling plate.
    5. USM Web Interface to DB
  7. Status of Testing at JLab
    1. Hall-D ELOG
      • Preliminary data is now being taken. Chiller set to 10 deg C.
      • Two preamp boards populated (8 channels)
      • Problem with DC offset out of original board.
      • Revised board replaced resistor with a capacitor to eliminate baseline. Data shown are for the board with the capacitor.
      • Data shown for 200 ns gate. Signal to noise decreases as gate is increased.
    2. Spectra with Chiller ON
    3. Some photos
  8. Other