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*'''Preparation of parts for FCAL2 modules''' -- Sasha  
 
*'''Preparation of parts for FCAL2 modules''' -- Sasha  
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** Received 15  CRYTUR crystals during this week [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/CRYTUR]
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*** Expect to receive 10 more CRYTUR crystals from physics division (22-C0275) by the end of this year
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**[https://halldweb.jlab.org/detectors/fcal2/module_fabrication/wrapped/wrapped_crytur.pdf Wrapped CRYTUR crystals: 795 ]
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*** 9 crystals wrapped during last week
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*** Available for wrapping: 30 crystals
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*** Mindy (DSG group) continues wrapping crystals
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*** Mindy will start soldering wires to sockets (short meeting with Chris and Mindy)
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** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/detectors/fcal2/module_fabrication/status/part_preparation.pdf List of available parts]
 
* '''Module fabrication'''  -- Sasha
 
* '''Module fabrication'''  -- Sasha
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** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/detectors/fcal2/module_fabrication/status/fcal_fabrication.pdf  Status of fabrication ]
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** Fabricated modules: <span style="color:#FF0000"> Total 1371 </span> (9 modules fabricated since last week)
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*** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/detectors/fcal2/module_fabrication/status/module_fabrication.pdf All SICCAS 576 SICCAS]
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*** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/detectors/fcal2/module_fabrication/status/module_fabrication_crytur.pdf 795 CRYTUR], available: 30
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*** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/detectors/fcal2/module_fabrication/status/11_11_22 Moving modules to the new lab (EEL108)]
 
* '''[[Testing of PMT dividers]]''' -- Sasha / Arshak
 
* '''[[Testing of PMT dividers]]''' -- Sasha / Arshak
 
* '''Installation of the FCAL2 detector''' -- Sasha / Arshak
 
* '''Installation of the FCAL2 detector''' -- Sasha / Arshak
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** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/FCAL_Installation Detector installation page]
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** Updates from the meetings with Tim's group [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/November_16,_2022_FCAL_Insert_Installation_Meeting]
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** Detector cabling and patch panels for the FCAL insert
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** Manpower and division of tasks
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** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_tasks_and_manpower Projects for summer students]
 
* '''Light Monitoring System''' -- Arshak
 
* '''Light Monitoring System''' -- Arshak
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**BEAM tests for checking cross talks
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***Prototype pic at PS test stand https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/20221207_171308.jpg
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***https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/20221207_171325.jpg
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** Very 1st Results
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***https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/3_by_3.gif
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***https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/4_5_6.gif
 
* '''Simulations/Analysis'''
 
* '''Simulations/Analysis'''
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=Minutes=
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Attendees: Sasha, Arshak, Phil, Igal, Malte, Jane, Jon, Liping, Azizah, Bill, Zisis, Axel, S.T.
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* Arshak presented progress on measuring cross talk due to LMS plexiglas plate using 3x3 setup in PS test stand in hall
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** PbW04 module in center, dummies with just ESR wrapping on left and right, long light guides on top and bottom
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** Front face blocked on one side of center, open on other side
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** Light guides still present for dummies
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** Secondary lepton beam hits ~center of crystal, in coincidence with PS tile
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*** Could be centered a little better
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** Almost the same amplitudes of signals on left and right tubes = almost no cross talk
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*** Small asymmetry is seen -- suggest swapping which face is closed
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*** Could do test without light guides on left and right
 +
*** Look at energy distribution of possible cross talk?
 +
** Redo test with a true 3x3 prototype of crystals?
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* COMCAL will be disassembled next year -- leave a 5x5 array for tests with new PMT dividers?
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* Still continuing to receive Crytur crystals, expect more by end of year, and expect new batch in May of next year
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* Wrapping of existing crystals continues -- 30 more to go
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* Mindy from detector support group soldering wires to PMT sockets
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* Inventory of parts needed for module fabrication looks good
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* Grand total fabricated modules = 1371, hope for 1400 by end of year
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* Bench tests for PMT dividers (two versions: bypassed amplifier and 3x amplifier) ongoing
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** Concern: NPS experience with higher gain amplifier (20x vs 3x) = large noise level, 200 MHz frequency -- do we need to be concerned?  Probably not due to smaller gain amplifier
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** Noise tests inside FCAL dark room
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*** With bypassed amplifier: FCAL HV off: low noise;  FCAL HV on: some noise spikes
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*** With 3x amplifer:  see CANBUS activity and higher amplitude noise level with FCAL HV off, increases with FCAL HV on
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**** Still looks like ~3 mV threshold should be possible
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*** Bring 3x3 crystal prototype into dark room?
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*** Use shielded cables for CANBUS?
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* Need to give green light to Fernando regarding PMT divider order soon
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* Patch panel design:  separation of HV and LV
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* List of summer students is growing:
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** 2 from Lamar, 2 from URegina, up to 4 from UNCW, 1 from GWU
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** Lab will support students at some level
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** Sasha anticipates needing 11 students for 3 months

Latest revision as of 10:24, 16 December 2022

Meeting time and location:

  • 9:30 am EST (JLab time) remote only
  • Zoom meeting ID: 161 050 9142 Passcode: 004965

Agenda

Minutes

Attendees: Sasha, Arshak, Phil, Igal, Malte, Jane, Jon, Liping, Azizah, Bill, Zisis, Axel, S.T.

  • Arshak presented progress on measuring cross talk due to LMS plexiglas plate using 3x3 setup in PS test stand in hall
    • PbW04 module in center, dummies with just ESR wrapping on left and right, long light guides on top and bottom
    • Front face blocked on one side of center, open on other side
    • Light guides still present for dummies
    • Secondary lepton beam hits ~center of crystal, in coincidence with PS tile
      • Could be centered a little better
    • Almost the same amplitudes of signals on left and right tubes = almost no cross talk
      • Small asymmetry is seen -- suggest swapping which face is closed
      • Could do test without light guides on left and right
      • Look at energy distribution of possible cross talk?
    • Redo test with a true 3x3 prototype of crystals?
  • COMCAL will be disassembled next year -- leave a 5x5 array for tests with new PMT dividers?
  • Still continuing to receive Crytur crystals, expect more by end of year, and expect new batch in May of next year
  • Wrapping of existing crystals continues -- 30 more to go
  • Mindy from detector support group soldering wires to PMT sockets
  • Inventory of parts needed for module fabrication looks good
  • Grand total fabricated modules = 1371, hope for 1400 by end of year
  • Bench tests for PMT dividers (two versions: bypassed amplifier and 3x amplifier) ongoing
    • Concern: NPS experience with higher gain amplifier (20x vs 3x) = large noise level, 200 MHz frequency -- do we need to be concerned? Probably not due to smaller gain amplifier
    • Noise tests inside FCAL dark room
      • With bypassed amplifier: FCAL HV off: low noise; FCAL HV on: some noise spikes
      • With 3x amplifer: see CANBUS activity and higher amplitude noise level with FCAL HV off, increases with FCAL HV on
        • Still looks like ~3 mV threshold should be possible
      • Bring 3x3 crystal prototype into dark room?
      • Use shielded cables for CANBUS?
  • Need to give green light to Fernando regarding PMT divider order soon
  • Patch panel design: separation of HV and LV
  • List of summer students is growing:
    • 2 from Lamar, 2 from URegina, up to 4 from UNCW, 1 from GWU
    • Lab will support students at some level
    • Sasha anticipates needing 11 students for 3 months